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xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" 	> <channel><title>Comments on: Chinese Bloggers on Tibet</title> <atom:link href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/</link> <description>Covering China From Cyberspace</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:56:21 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Phil</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-6460</link> <dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/#comment-6460</guid> <description>Simple facts:
1 - the CCP does not want ANY organization, religion or group that has large membership that can possibly be used as a common voice and turning force against the CCP.Remember falong gong?
2 - So, in Tibet, it is the Buddhist monks that existed in great numbers, that were singled out as the group to reduce and control because they presented a potential threat in the minds of the CCP.
3 - Lest we forget, the Himalyas are full of minerals as well as providing a barrier to India, a potential rival.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple facts:<br
/> 1 &#8211; the CCP does not want ANY organization, religion or group that has large membership that can possibly be used as a common voice and turning force against the CCP.Remember falong gong?<br
/> 2 &#8211; So, in Tibet, it is the Buddhist monks that existed in great numbers, that were singled out as the group to reduce and control because they presented a potential threat in the minds of the CCP.<br
/> 3 &#8211; Lest we forget, the Himalyas are full of minerals as well as providing a barrier to India, a potential rival.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yeshe Choesang</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-4161</link> <dc:creator>Yeshe Choesang</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:07:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/#comment-4161</guid> <description>Why Politics and sports are different?When you hear the four words &quot;One World, one dream&quot;, what meaning does it have to you? Being a Tibetan writer, it doesn&#039;t convey proper meaning to me if the words are used by a hopeless state like China.But if you explore the deeper definition of the phrase, it has extraordinary meanings.  It defends mutual respect, rights, peace, friendship, and the stability of political power; however, it’s also easy to say but hard to practice.In today&#039;s world, all sentient beings appreciate peace, happiness, kindness, and compassion.  Those important things are always part of freedom of politics, rights and power of sports etc. People who mention freedom of press and human rights in the context of the Olympics are often accused of mixing politics with sports. So what is the legitimacy of this linkage being made in case of Beijing Olympics?To begin with, China, in buttonholing the IOC hosted the Olympic Games and have argued over the years that it has become a modern global society.  At beginning, they argue that the freedom of the press and the human rights of its citizens and Tibetans in occupied Tibet will be markedly improved but at this period of time and the end, the aspirations of IOC and the rest of the world seems blurred and unfulfilled.The world was told &quot;trust us&quot; by China but the occupation of Tibet, which caused the deaths of 1.3 million Tibetans after 1950s, and that the thousands massacred after abuses of the Cultural Revolution and the Tiananmen Square massacre were things of the past and banished to the annals of history, but even today there are a wide range of violations of human rights and merciless killings. Therefore, China stands first in violating International laws. At this juncture, how can the world in general and Tibetans in particular trust CHINA!Hoped much, but no changesWe were further told and urged that the Chinese Communist Government would use the Beijing Olympics to advance the freedom of press and human rights of the people in China, particularly in Tibet and other occupied territories, but the host itself is the only one merciless state who can be labeled as the enemy of press freedom and human rights and they have never listened to the voices and appeals of the people of the world.Big eats smalls, even in animals, I don&#039;t think there are still heroes any more.  How have the UN and EU contributed to the peace of Tibetan people, press freedom or human rights? It’s no different than China giving only destruction and deaths to Tibet and its people. Then, when China was granted the right to host the Olympics, the government again affirmed its promise to live up to the Olympic spirit and uphold freedom of press and human rights. People are still confused whether it was Olympic spirit or communist spirit? Now we saw the true spirit of the IOC’s offer to the people of the world! I don&#039;t want to say it was a great decision.In fact, the major complaint made by Reporters Without Borders, Amnesty International and other watchdog human rights groups is that China has failed to keep the promise they made in 2001 when Beijing was a finalist for the games in regards to improving their freedom of press and human rights record. China always makes and made promises; the world has had enough of watching the dramas of its highly respected communist state.The media and human rights in Tibet; Tibetan journalists and writers are jailed if they say or write the truth, Tibetan websites, forums and blogs are closed if they update or publish the truth. So &quot;One world, one dream&quot; doesn&#039;t apply to Tibetans in Tibet in any form from any angle. China&#039;s notorious record on human rights has continued to be a cloud after Olympics in Tibet. Over the years, the world watched, hoped and dreamed or brought and bought the Chinese goods. World press and International human rights groups, celebrities and politicians question if any major improvements have in fact been made to Beijing&#039;s media policy and human rights record and many activist groups have even asked for countries to actively boycott the Games. But many of them couldn&#039;t leave the personal benefits they get from China in the form of &quot;China&#039;s great offer&quot;. Tibetan people have never enjoyed press freedom and human rights under the merciless occupation of China in the last 49 years.There are also those of us who believe - or hope - that such improvements, as promised to us, are never possible, as I say and said, yet I surely can say that you will not be guaranteed to enter in China for any purpose as China has acted during the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.Freedom of press and Olympic spiritFreedom of speech is a great part of the Olympic spirit and its human value to the sports. At main time, for centuries the Olympic spirit has been linked to human rights, civility and peace. This is expressed and granted in the Olympic Charter, which specifically prohibits any form of discrimination. Peace and human rights doesn&#039;t mean anything to a political system governed by a single individual, but the Olympic spirit and its freedom of speech to all mankind, I would like to say, one world, many dreams.Back to our world Olympic history, it began in ancient Greece; a truce was annunciated before and during each Olympic spirit festival. During the armistice, wars were suspended, the carrying out of death penalties was forbidden and safety of visitors travel assured.If that is required by the people of the world, so the question that needs to be asked is: Was China honoring that ancient tradition of declaring and enforcing the truce in the Olympic year 2008? If it was honored in an honest way, then “one world, one dream” will be a successful and meaningful event for mankind and China&#039;s history.ResponsibilitiesIn past two years, Chinese authorities closed down almost all Tibetan websites, blogs, and forums including the famous Tibetan writer&#039;s blog (Mrs. Woeser&#039;s blog) and Tibetan youth forum. Tibetan media persons and writers including famous Tibetan writer Mr. Dolma Kyab are detained and jailed for three to ten years. There are hundreds of media related persons detained and jailed in China. All foreign and exile Tibetan websites, publications and radios are not accessible in Tibet and China. China never steps-down on freedom of press and human rights in Tibet. Even after all, China has definite human rights responsibilities under the international human rights law.Since the early 1960s, China has said that they have actively sought to increase their participation in multilateral affairs, especially in Tibet and other occupied states. But imprisonments of Tibetans in Tibet never stopped. In fact, contemporary China had become party to a range of over 273 international treaties, of which 239 had become applicable to China only after 1979. These watershed decisions decisively showed China&#039;s acknowledgement of the universal applicability of international law. So, it seems in Chine there is no space for “One world, One dream.”Although in the Chinese record of participation in press freedom and international human rights the regime has been largely negative in Tibet and China itself, China always respects and regards its own personal stance and restricted press freedom and human rights in the country and after reviewing all these, China can never approve their slogan &quot;one world and one dream&quot;The current situation in Tibet?People around the world are concerned about the situation in Tibet; around 250 people have been confirmed killed in a Chinese crackdown on protests and unrest in Tibet. Tibetan communities-in-exile revealed to the world media around 70 photos of dead bodies of Tibetans published by the Tibetan media in exile. Kalon Tripa, prime minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile said, “We urgently appealed the international community to bring an immediate end to the repressive acts.”</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Politics and sports are different?</p><p>When you hear the four words &#8220;One World, one dream&#8221;, what meaning does it have to you? Being a Tibetan writer, it doesn&#8217;t convey proper meaning to me if the words are used by a hopeless state like China.</p><p>But if you explore the deeper definition of the phrase, it has extraordinary meanings.  It defends mutual respect, rights, peace, friendship, and the stability of political power; however, it’s also easy to say but hard to practice.</p><p>In today&#8217;s world, all sentient beings appreciate peace, happiness, kindness, and compassion.  Those important things are always part of freedom of politics, rights and power of sports etc. People who mention freedom of press and human rights in the context of the Olympics are often accused of mixing politics with sports. So what is the legitimacy of this linkage being made in case of Beijing Olympics?</p><p>To begin with, China, in buttonholing the IOC hosted the Olympic Games and have argued over the years that it has become a modern global society.  At beginning, they argue that the freedom of the press and the human rights of its citizens and Tibetans in occupied Tibet will be markedly improved but at this period of time and the end, the aspirations of IOC and the rest of the world seems blurred and unfulfilled.</p><p>The world was told &#8220;trust us&#8221; by China but the occupation of Tibet, which caused the deaths of 1.3 million Tibetans after 1950s, and that the thousands massacred after abuses of the Cultural Revolution and the Tiananmen Square massacre were things of the past and banished to the annals of history, but even today there are a wide range of violations of human rights and merciless killings. Therefore, China stands first in violating International laws. At this juncture, how can the world in general and Tibetans in particular trust CHINA!</p><p>Hoped much, but no changes</p><p>We were further told and urged that the Chinese Communist Government would use the Beijing Olympics to advance the freedom of press and human rights of the people in China, particularly in Tibet and other occupied territories, but the host itself is the only one merciless state who can be labeled as the enemy of press freedom and human rights and they have never listened to the voices and appeals of the people of the world.</p><p>Big eats smalls, even in animals, I don&#8217;t think there are still heroes any more.  How have the UN and EU contributed to the peace of Tibetan people, press freedom or human rights? It’s no different than China giving only destruction and deaths to Tibet and its people. Then, when China was granted the right to host the Olympics, the government again affirmed its promise to live up to the Olympic spirit and uphold freedom of press and human rights. People are still confused whether it was Olympic spirit or communist spirit? Now we saw the true spirit of the IOC’s offer to the people of the world! I don&#8217;t want to say it was a great decision.</p><p>In fact, the major complaint made by Reporters Without Borders, Amnesty International and other watchdog human rights groups is that China has failed to keep the promise they made in 2001 when Beijing was a finalist for the games in regards to improving their freedom of press and human rights record. China always makes and made promises; the world has had enough of watching the dramas of its highly respected communist state.</p><p>The media and human rights in Tibet; Tibetan journalists and writers are jailed if they say or write the truth, Tibetan websites, forums and blogs are closed if they update or publish the truth. So &#8220;One world, one dream&#8221; doesn&#8217;t apply to Tibetans in Tibet in any form from any angle. China&#8217;s notorious record on human rights has continued to be a cloud after Olympics in Tibet. Over the years, the world watched, hoped and dreamed or brought and bought the Chinese goods. World press and International human rights groups, celebrities and politicians question if any major improvements have in fact been made to Beijing&#8217;s media policy and human rights record and many activist groups have even asked for countries to actively boycott the Games. But many of them couldn&#8217;t leave the personal benefits they get from China in the form of &#8220;China&#8217;s great offer&#8221;. Tibetan people have never enjoyed press freedom and human rights under the merciless occupation of China in the last 49 years.</p><p>There are also those of us who believe &#8211; or hope &#8211; that such improvements, as promised to us, are never possible, as I say and said, yet I surely can say that you will not be guaranteed to enter in China for any purpose as China has acted during the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games.</p><p>Freedom of press and Olympic spirit</p><p>Freedom of speech is a great part of the Olympic spirit and its human value to the sports. At main time, for centuries the Olympic spirit has been linked to human rights, civility and peace. This is expressed and granted in the Olympic Charter, which specifically prohibits any form of discrimination. Peace and human rights doesn&#8217;t mean anything to a political system governed by a single individual, but the Olympic spirit and its freedom of speech to all mankind, I would like to say, one world, many dreams.</p><p>Back to our world Olympic history, it began in ancient Greece; a truce was annunciated before and during each Olympic spirit festival. During the armistice, wars were suspended, the carrying out of death penalties was forbidden and safety of visitors travel assured.</p><p>If that is required by the people of the world, so the question that needs to be asked is: Was China honoring that ancient tradition of declaring and enforcing the truce in the Olympic year 2008? If it was honored in an honest way, then “one world, one dream” will be a successful and meaningful event for mankind and China&#8217;s history.</p><p>Responsibilities</p><p>In past two years, Chinese authorities closed down almost all Tibetan websites, blogs, and forums including the famous Tibetan writer&#8217;s blog (Mrs. Woeser&#8217;s blog) and Tibetan youth forum. Tibetan media persons and writers including famous Tibetan writer Mr. Dolma Kyab are detained and jailed for three to ten years. There are hundreds of media related persons detained and jailed in China. All foreign and exile Tibetan websites, publications and radios are not accessible in Tibet and China. China never steps-down on freedom of press and human rights in Tibet. Even after all, China has definite human rights responsibilities under the international human rights law.</p><p>Since the early 1960s, China has said that they have actively sought to increase their participation in multilateral affairs, especially in Tibet and other occupied states. But imprisonments of Tibetans in Tibet never stopped. In fact, contemporary China had become party to a range of over 273 international treaties, of which 239 had become applicable to China only after 1979. These watershed decisions decisively showed China&#8217;s acknowledgement of the universal applicability of international law. So, it seems in Chine there is no space for “One world, One dream.”</p><p>Although in the Chinese record of participation in press freedom and international human rights the regime has been largely negative in Tibet and China itself, China always respects and regards its own personal stance and restricted press freedom and human rights in the country and after reviewing all these, China can never approve their slogan &#8220;one world and one dream&#8221;</p><p>The current situation in Tibet?</p><p>People around the world are concerned about the situation in Tibet; around 250 people have been confirmed killed in a Chinese crackdown on protests and unrest in Tibet. Tibetan communities-in-exile revealed to the world media around 70 photos of dead bodies of Tibetans published by the Tibetan media in exile. Kalon Tripa, prime minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile said, “We urgently appealed the international community to bring an immediate end to the repressive acts.”</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The World is Welcome Here&#8230;Except You, You and You : Ch-infamous</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link> <dc:creator>The World is Welcome Here&#8230;Except You, You and You : Ch-infamous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:21:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/#comment-1401</guid> <description>[...] leaders in Beijing can go a long way to satisfying those raving nationalists who would sooner boycott their own Olympics than see China once again humiliated on an international stage&#8211;a group arguably more of a [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] leaders in Beijing can go a long way to satisfying those raving nationalists who would sooner boycott their own Olympics than see China once again humiliated on an international stage&#8211;a group arguably more of a [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Lo</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-1315</link> <dc:creator>Don Lo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/#comment-1315</guid> <description>China is certainly at a historic crossroads as it further embraces the benefits of free enterprise and the often slippery slope of macroeconomics which will forever be influenced by politics and culture from without and within.  Part of the Chinese infrastructure is limping along as high rise buildings span the urban sky in some high visibility cities.  What is not widely known is that the sewage infrastructure is so challenged, so undeveloped, that the best technical knowledge can&#039;t find a way to retrofit what isn&#039;t there, below multi-storied high rise buildings.  China is veritably on a precipice of wild ambition of external showmanship while the other side of the slippery precipice is the degradation of the ecology -- not only from the issue of sewage, but just as critically, coal plants, manufacturing and the incipient toxins released (which is known to impressively add to the pollution index of coastal California) but the real issue incumbent to development which dictates that development must come from the earthly base first.  This is not to mention the current public health epidemics in China of respiratory illnesses that plague and destroy the precious lives of the Chinese people.  The Chinese government is confronted by the incredible challenge of continuing modernization, dealing with the increased affluence of an emerging middle class and their access to Western ideas, training, and education, and finding a solution to some incredibly onerous problems which if ignored, will be the &#039;Achilles heel&#039; of China as a whole.  For the &#039;Middle Kingdom&#039; to survive intact for years ahead, it will necessitate significant change in public policy by the Chinese government.  Tibet is a political testing ground for this millenium and it may well be in China&#039;s international interest to bring back the world&#039;s journalists and rethink domestic policy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is certainly at a historic crossroads as it further embraces the benefits of free enterprise and the often slippery slope of macroeconomics which will forever be influenced by politics and culture from without and within.  Part of the Chinese infrastructure is limping along as high rise buildings span the urban sky in some high visibility cities.  What is not widely known is that the sewage infrastructure is so challenged, so undeveloped, that the best technical knowledge can&#8217;t find a way to retrofit what isn&#8217;t there, below multi-storied high rise buildings.  China is veritably on a precipice of wild ambition of external showmanship while the other side of the slippery precipice is the degradation of the ecology &#8212; not only from the issue of sewage, but just as critically, coal plants, manufacturing and the incipient toxins released (which is known to impressively add to the pollution index of coastal California) but the real issue incumbent to development which dictates that development must come from the earthly base first.  This is not to mention the current public health epidemics in China of respiratory illnesses that plague and destroy the precious lives of the Chinese people.  The Chinese government is confronted by the incredible challenge of continuing modernization, dealing with the increased affluence of an emerging middle class and their access to Western ideas, training, and education, and finding a solution to some incredibly onerous problems which if ignored, will be the &#8216;Achilles heel&#8217; of China as a whole.  For the &#8216;Middle Kingdom&#8217; to survive intact for years ahead, it will necessitate significant change in public policy by the Chinese government.  Tibet is a political testing ground for this millenium and it may well be in China&#8217;s international interest to bring back the world&#8217;s journalists and rethink domestic policy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/comment-page-1/#comment-1167</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/chinese-bloggers-on-tibet/#comment-1167</guid> <description>Communist China&#039;s leaders once again perpetrate lies and propoganda about Tibet and the Dalai Lama. Though China tries to portray the Dalai Lama as the driving force and instigator in the recent protests....it is clear to the international community that the chinese communists lie, distort the truth and makes claims that have no historical truth. It is time to stand up against a regime that has no moral right to subjugate and terrorize people who only wish to live in peace. Please rise to the challenge and do what you can to make your voices heard. It is the only way to make our politicians take a stand against china&#039;s illegal and immoral takeover of Tibet. Cultural genocide is alive and it is happening now in Tibet. It is our duty to speak against atrocities by the communist chinese against Tibetans.Speak for Justice
David</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communist China&#8217;s leaders once again perpetrate lies and propoganda about Tibet and the Dalai Lama. Though China tries to portray the Dalai Lama as the driving force and instigator in the recent protests&#8230;.it is clear to the international community that the chinese communists lie, distort the truth and makes claims that have no historical truth. It is time to stand up against a regime that has no moral right to subjugate and terrorize people who only wish to live in peace. Please rise to the challenge and do what you can to make your voices heard. It is the only way to make our politicians take a stand against china&#8217;s illegal and immoral takeover of Tibet. Cultural genocide is alive and it is happening now in Tibet. It is our duty to speak against atrocities by the communist chinese against Tibetans.</p><p>Speak for Justice<br
/> David</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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