<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" 	> <channel><title>Comments on: My Friends, What Do You Want From Us?</title> <atom:link href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/</link> <description>Watching China Politics from Cyberspace</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 16:47:33 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: GeraldM459</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-12734</link> <dc:creator>GeraldM459</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-12734</guid> <description>Speaking as a patriotic Black American, when I consider the &quot;beam of global atrocities&quot; in my own country&#039;s eye I have but one question to ask....&quot;What do you mean &quot;we&quot; white man?&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a patriotic Black American, when I consider the &#8220;beam of global atrocities&#8221; in my own country&#8217;s eye I have but one question to ask&#8230;.&#8221;What do you mean &#8220;we&#8221; white man?&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KA</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-11754</link> <dc:creator>KA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:42:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-11754</guid> <description>Why? The Dalai Lama is still under CIA&#039;s control. It is a sacred right for non-Americans to stand up against American wrong-doings.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? The Dalai Lama is still under CIA&#8217;s control. It is a sacred right for non-Americans to stand up against American wrong-doings.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hitlar</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-11751</link> <dc:creator>Hitlar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:44:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-11751</guid> <description>For starters we want better products the stuff you make is cheaper than we can bear. Truthfully we want your money</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters we want better products the stuff you make is cheaper than we can bear.<br /> Truthfully we want your money</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jasemagic</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-5600</link> <dc:creator>jasemagic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:14:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-5600</guid> <description>well i hope u fell better getting that off your chest.watever it is u are trying to say....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i hope u fell better getting that off your chest.watever it is u are trying to say&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hu wen lie...</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-2522</link> <dc:creator>Hu wen lie...</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-2522</guid> <description>my friend, ask yourself, why people are jailed for expressing love for your own country?My friend ask yourself, why entire population has been silenced not to criticize the CCP?My friend ask yourself, why poor people are always neglected, their land confiscated and their plea un-answered?My friend ask yourself, why corruption amongst CCP officials always taken as granted?My friend as yourself, why people in Tibet are shot indiscriminately, jailed and tortured for expressing their love for Dalai Lama?My friend ask yourself why CCP with million strong army, police scared of meeting one simple buddhist monk?My friend ask yourself why people are persecuted for keeping Dalai Lama&#039;s photo in their private shrine room?My friend ask yourself why thousands of fellow Chinese citizens are persecuted for peacefully following fulung gong practice?My friend ask yourself Mao, who has blood in his hand of more than 70 million Chinese people still kept in Beijing?My friend, can you answer for countless destruction of irreplaceable ancient artefacts, statues, scriptures and monasteries in Tibet by China??My friend ask yourself, thousands of fellow Chinese students rumbled to death by PLA&#039;S tanks and guns in 1989?My friend ask yourself, why justice is still denied to Tiannenmen square mothers??My friend ask yourself, thousands of innocent school kids parished in Sichuan recently, while CCP building stood up, most school collapsed!! who is to blame? where is the justice? Sichuan mothers are now silenced and some sent to jail. whyyMy friend, Dalai Lama seeks autonomy, non-voilently, whole world knows for ages, still CCP says he is seeking independence and seeks split China? WhyyMy friend ask yourself, why all media in CHIna are state controlled, events in Tibet or else where in China are only covered, manupulated and biased from the CCP propaganda point, is all Chinese brainwashed??Innocent people are brutally gunned down in Tibet, in monasteries, in town, in village, on mountain, yet no one speak up for them, is Chinese have no human feeling? whyy no one speak?My friend ask yourself,Tibetans have all aspect of live different from China, have all the evidences of an independent country before 1949, but CCP still keep on saying Tibet is part of China since ancient time!! who are they fooling? Chinese, world? but how long? how long can they live on covering lies after lies? Are Chinese lier? I don&#039;t think so..My friend ask yourself, if CCP is not using Olympic for political reason, why it took olympic torch on Mt.Everest with all the money being wasted, why the CCP boss in Tibet used the olympic ceremony in Lhasa to say he will crush Dalai Clique and CCP will stay in Tibet for ever?My friend ask yourself, why China&#039;s image in the world is bad, whyyy? Don&#039;t blame Tibetans or democracy dissidents for it, it is CCP, for having worst human rights records, highest number of execution, links and support to all the despotic regimes in the world, mugabe, burma, north korea, Pakistan, Nepal, sudan, Usbekistan etc....My friend ask yourself, why overseas Chinese students are asked and payed to come and protest during Dalai Lama#s overseas visits?My friend ask yourself, Dalai Lama has said countless time, he is not seeking seperation but autonomy, he has supported openly Beijing olympic since the start, but CCP keep accusing him... where is the prove, evidence that riots in Tibet is orchestrated by Dalai lama?My friend ask yourself, Tibetans did not do anything to China, but they occupied tibet, ruined everything, taken away people freedom, more than 1.2 million Tibetans died by China&#039;s bullets. Now in Tibet, no media, more protection, no freedom, no joy, no respect, no harmony, only guns, army and killings and jail. Whyyy?My friend ask yourself, when PLA first entered Tibet 1949, they came as a friend to help Tibet develop with the promise to withdaw back as soon as asked by Tibetans, but now they are plundering TIbet and terrorizing people.My friend, ask yourself, as a human being  can you speak from heart rather than following CCP propaganda? After all, we beleive Tibetans are also helping Chinese  to stand up to CCP, stand up for their rights and freedom. Tibetans don&#039;t hate Chinese at all, we just wanted to live in peace and dignity in our land, practicing our unique culture.My friend, ask yourself, deep down, is dalai lama an evil man, a terrorist, lier, splittist and wolf in monks robe as CCP says???? Millions of Chinese secretly, silently pay respect and homage to dalai lama. This is truth.My friend ask yourself, why real Panchen lama is still kidnapped by CCP? Why CCP, who doesn&#039;t beleive in religion put a fake panchen?My friend ask yourself, monks and nuns in Tibet are subjected to gross voilation of human rights and religious freedom, whyy??My friend, how long will it go? its been now 50yrs of China&#039;s illegal occupation of TIbet. In Tibet, CHINA still acts like  cultural revolution era... , what is the point of hosting olympic if milliions in China are suffering from CCP monopoly?My friend ask yourself, Dalai LAMA ssupported olympic for china for the CHINESE PEOPLE, not CCP. WHY don&#039;t know you know and appreciate this? But you guys are stupid, mean and rude, you always follows CCP, spread lies and spread evil words to all, what you gain???? fooling yourself.My friend, we hope olympic is bring some good changes in China, but still by using olympic, CCP is rounding up people, and restricting movements, restricting people#s rights etc. whyyAnyway my friend, list will go on and on on on, China has power in economy, military but have no respect in the world, China have to earn that respect. CCP need to change, acknowledge past mistakes, apologize and move on!! Chinesee people, be kind, calm, peaceful, friendly and more understanding, you will live more happily. What is the point, destroying killings, destroying nd torturing innocent people all the time, we have one life, a short life, lets live it with purpose, compassion and love.Dalai Lama still hope for the solution of Tibet problem with mutual understanding n respect, in peaceful, friendly way, lets see how CCP returns good gestures from Tibetan side.Thank you, may truth prevails!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my friend, ask yourself, why people are jailed for expressing love for your own country?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why entire population has been silenced not to criticize the CCP?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why poor people are always neglected, their land confiscated and their plea un-answered?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why corruption amongst CCP officials always taken as granted?</p><p>My friend as yourself, why people in Tibet are shot indiscriminately, jailed and tortured for expressing their love for Dalai Lama?</p><p>My friend ask yourself why CCP with million strong army, police scared of meeting one simple buddhist monk?</p><p>My friend ask yourself why people are persecuted for keeping Dalai Lama&#8217;s photo in their private shrine room?</p><p>My friend ask yourself why thousands of fellow Chinese citizens are persecuted for peacefully following fulung gong practice?</p><p>My friend ask yourself Mao, who has blood in his hand of more than 70 million Chinese people still kept in Beijing?</p><p>My friend, can you answer for countless destruction of irreplaceable ancient artefacts, statues, scriptures and monasteries in Tibet by China??</p><p>My friend ask yourself, thousands of fellow Chinese students rumbled to death by PLA&#8217;S tanks and guns in 1989?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why justice is still denied to Tiannenmen square mothers??</p><p>My friend ask yourself, thousands of innocent school kids parished in Sichuan recently, while CCP building stood up, most school collapsed!! who is to blame? where is the justice? Sichuan mothers are now silenced and some sent to jail. whyy</p><p>My friend, Dalai Lama seeks autonomy, non-voilently, whole world knows for ages, still CCP says he is seeking independence and seeks split China? Whyy</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why all media in CHIna are state controlled, events in Tibet or else where in China are only covered, manupulated and biased from the CCP propaganda point, is all Chinese brainwashed??</p><p>Innocent people are brutally gunned down in Tibet, in monasteries, in town, in village, on mountain, yet no one speak up for them, is Chinese have no human feeling? whyy no one speak?</p><p>My friend ask yourself,Tibetans have all aspect of live different from China, have all the evidences of an independent country before 1949, but CCP still keep on saying Tibet is part of China since ancient time!! who are they fooling? Chinese, world? but how long? how long can they live on covering lies after lies? Are Chinese lier? I don&#8217;t think so..</p><p>My friend ask yourself, if CCP is not using Olympic for political reason, why it took olympic torch on Mt.Everest with all the money being wasted, why the CCP boss in Tibet used the olympic ceremony in Lhasa to say he will crush Dalai Clique and CCP will stay in Tibet for ever?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why China&#8217;s image in the world is bad, whyyy? Don&#8217;t blame Tibetans or democracy dissidents for it, it is CCP, for having worst human rights records, highest number of execution, links and support to all the despotic regimes in the world, mugabe, burma, north korea, Pakistan, Nepal, sudan, Usbekistan etc&#8230;.</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why overseas Chinese students are asked and payed to come and protest during Dalai Lama#s overseas visits?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, Dalai Lama has said countless time, he is not seeking seperation but autonomy, he has supported openly Beijing olympic since the start, but CCP keep accusing him&#8230; where is the prove, evidence that riots in Tibet is orchestrated by Dalai lama?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, Tibetans did not do anything to China, but they occupied tibet, ruined everything, taken away people freedom, more than 1.2 million Tibetans died by China&#8217;s bullets. Now in Tibet, no media, more protection, no freedom, no joy, no respect, no harmony, only guns, army and killings and jail. Whyyy?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, when PLA first entered Tibet 1949, they came as a friend to help Tibet develop with the promise to withdaw back as soon as asked by Tibetans, but now they are plundering TIbet and terrorizing people.</p><p>My friend, ask yourself, as a human being  can you speak from heart rather than following CCP propaganda? After all, we beleive Tibetans are also helping Chinese  to stand up to CCP, stand up for their rights and freedom. Tibetans don&#8217;t hate Chinese at all, we just wanted to live in peace and dignity in our land, practicing our unique culture.</p><p>My friend, ask yourself, deep down, is dalai lama an evil man, a terrorist, lier, splittist and wolf in monks robe as CCP says???? Millions of Chinese secretly, silently pay respect and homage to dalai lama. This is truth.</p><p>My friend ask yourself, why real Panchen lama is still kidnapped by CCP? Why CCP, who doesn&#8217;t beleive in religion put a fake panchen?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, monks and nuns in Tibet are subjected to gross voilation of human rights and religious freedom, whyy??</p><p>My friend, how long will it go? its been now 50yrs of China&#8217;s illegal occupation of TIbet. In Tibet, CHINA still acts like  cultural revolution era&#8230; , what is the point of hosting olympic if milliions in China are suffering from CCP monopoly?</p><p>My friend ask yourself, Dalai LAMA ssupported olympic for china for the CHINESE PEOPLE, not CCP. WHY don&#8217;t know you know and appreciate this? But you guys are stupid, mean and rude, you always follows CCP, spread lies and spread evil words to all, what you gain???? fooling yourself.</p><p>My friend, we hope olympic is bring some good changes in China, but still by using olympic, CCP is rounding up people, and restricting movements, restricting people#s rights etc. whyy</p><p>Anyway my friend, list will go on and on on on, China has power in economy, military but have no respect in the world, China have to earn that respect. CCP need to change, acknowledge past mistakes, apologize and move on!! Chinesee people, be kind, calm, peaceful, friendly and more understanding, you will live more happily. What is the point, destroying killings, destroying nd torturing innocent people all the time, we have one life, a short life, lets live it with purpose, compassion and love.</p><p>Dalai Lama still hope for the solution of Tibet problem with mutual understanding n respect, in peaceful, friendly way, lets see how CCP returns good gestures from Tibetan side.</p><p>Thank you, may truth prevails!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tenzin</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-2133</link> <dc:creator>Tenzin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-2133</guid> <description>What do you want from us?When we were called “barbarians”, we were called the dirty stinking tibetans. When our spiritual leader was called the next moral superpower, you called him a demonWhen we closed our doors, you used your armies to open our markets when we embrace free trade, you tell us we can only trade with you.when we’re falling apart, you marched in your troops and “liberated us” when we’re putting the broken pieces together, “terrorism” and “minority nationalism” and “splittism” you screamed!So we tried Buddhism, you hated us for being Buddhist. So we embraced communism, now you still don&#039;t trust usThen we have only a few million people, you still said our nomads are destroying the environment Then you cut down all our trees and destroy our rivers, it is okay as long as you are destroying it.When nobody knew about your abuses, you treat us worst than dogs When the whole world see what you do, you tell them you treat us better than your own peopleWhen we build our monasteries, you called us slaveowners When we teach buddhism, you blamed us for splittism When we tell the world of the truth in Tibet, you called us liarsWhen we were silent, you said you said we are backwards and uneducated When we were silent no more, you say we were controlled by “evil Dalai clique” and “overseas forces”.Why do you hate us so much? We asked. “No”. You answered, “we don’t hate you”. We don’t hate you either Bud, do you understand us?? “of course we do”, you said, “We have CCTV and China Daily”.But why, we still feel, you Chinese people are not happy with us. What do you really want from us?? My friend, What do you really want from us??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you want from us?</p><p>When we were called “barbarians”, we were called the dirty stinking tibetans.<br /> When our spiritual leader was called the next moral superpower, you called him a demon</p><p>When we closed our doors, you used your armies to open our markets<br /> when we embrace free trade, you tell us we can only trade with you.</p><p>when we’re falling apart, you marched in your troops and “liberated us”<br /> when we’re putting the broken pieces together, “terrorism” and “minority nationalism” and “splittism” you screamed!</p><p>So we tried Buddhism, you hated us for being Buddhist.<br /> So we embraced communism, now you still don&#8217;t trust us</p><p>Then we have only a few million people, you still said our nomads are destroying the environment<br /> Then you cut down all our trees and destroy our rivers, it is okay as long as you are destroying it.</p><p>When nobody knew about your abuses, you treat us worst than dogs<br /> When the whole world see what you do, you tell them you treat us better than your own people</p><p>When we build our monasteries, you called us slaveowners<br /> When we teach buddhism, you blamed us for splittism<br /> When we tell the world of the truth in Tibet, you called us liars</p><p>When we were silent, you said you said we are backwards and uneducated<br /> When we were silent no more, you say we were controlled by “evil Dalai clique” and “overseas forces”.</p><p>Why do you hate us so much? We asked. “No”. You answered, “we don’t hate you”.<br /> We don’t hate you either Bud, do you understand us?? “of course we do”, you said, “We have CCTV and China Daily”.</p><p>But why, we still feel, you Chinese people are not happy with us.<br /> What do you really want from us??<br /> My friend, What do you really want from us??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: 54088</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1766</link> <dc:creator>54088</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:54:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1766</guid> <description>西方人,你们到底要什么?当我们是“东亚病夫”的时候，我们被你们称为“黄祸”。实际上，日本人最先被称为“黄祸”。那是在1895年甲午战争中，中国被日本击败后德国皇帝威廉二世杜撰出来的词汇。广而言之，我承认其中有种族因素作梗而使西方忧虑中国。但正本清源，我们还是把这一词汇的由来解释一下。虽然其中有种族的因素，但不能把西方对华的态度简单理解为种族主义。西方“恐华”的非理性层面并不意味着这种恐惧就没有理性的基础可言。在我的印象里，黄祸出自最早是欧洲纪录蒙古入侵的记载，而不是德皇对日本人的杜撰。这句话陈述了一个事实，你解释再多有什么意思？确有此事。当我们被标为下一个“超级大国”，我们被你们称为“威胁”。是的，欢迎中国加入“超级大国俱乐部”。“超级大国”从来就不是一个纯粹的恭维之辞。中国，众所周知，是主导批评美国霸权的最大声音。可见西方的这个标注伪善用意。用你自己的话回答你：中国，众所周知，是主导批评美国霸权的最大声音。当我们闭关锁国时，你们通过走私鸦片来打开我们的市场。确实。西方人这样做太糟糕了。有一点需要指出的是：在你提到的时期里，大部分被中国人吸食的鸦片是在中国种植，自然而然又被中国人运输和吸食。我说这个并不代表要开脱西方人的鸦片贸易的罪责，但确实从另一面质疑了在中国许多文献里兜售的有关这一时期的“邪恶的外国人\无辜的中国人”的简单武断的表述。而且，就在此同一时期，“你们眼中的”帝国主义者“ 为中国带来了第一批大学、现代意义的医院、兴办女子教育、铁路、路灯等等。当然，你可以义正辞严的回击说：中国人完全有能力自己选择恰当的时机和方式来吸收、运用这些现代化成果，而不是靠着侵犯中国的主权、剥夺中国的自然资源，由傲慢的洋大人强加到中国人身上。这是个殖民者和被殖民者一直纠缠不清的问题。有趣的是，中国人现在自己就站在殖民者的立场上来为你们在西藏事务辩解：说什么中国内地的投资把西藏从过去封建的落后境地拯救出来。看看，这是一种怎样的蜕变啊。一个被强迫换上毒瘾的人自己种植毒品使用，这能叫自然而然？西藏历史上是中国的一部分，而香港和澳门离欧洲十万八千里，欧洲人不远千里来掠夺和贩毒那才叫殖民，。有趣的是，美国人一提新墨西哥州和夏威夷就有点不愉悦，其实不只这些，成千上万被屠杀的印第安人会让你们世世代代的美国人精神不得安宁。当我们拥抱自由贸易时，你们又责备中国攫取了你们的工作机会。这是个复杂的问题。但可以说西方在此问题上确实有其虚伪之处。对这些西方的牢骚我感到非常抱歉。中国人，祝贺你们，你们已经提高了那么多人的生活水准。你们中国人勤劳努力，当之无愧应该过上更舒适的生活。我倒是要祝贺你们美国人，你们那么多人并不勤劳努力，却也享受着舒适的生活。当我们分崩离析时，你们开进来你们的军队要所谓“利益均沾”。西方人过去在中国的确展开过一些军事行动，但从宏观大局来看，这也并非一件坏事。让我们参考一些被真正被殖民的国家的经历，如比属刚果，再比较一下中国的遭遇，再次证明西方用武力强行打开旧中国的国门有益于中国，当然，这不可避免地带来了侮辱和剥削。可以参看Monty Python所著的Life of Brian中呈现的“罗马人到底对我们做了什么？”的情节。纠正你，不光是武力，还有毒品，你也太高看你们了，没有毒品打前锋你真的就以为大清的旗兵绿营是软弱无力的草包？美化侵略和殖民对美国和你们美国人的形象没有任何好处，只能被历史唾弃。完全承认殖民错误才是获得殖民地人民谅解的唯一途径。当我们重组统一时，你们西方人又高喊：自由西藏，中国侵略西藏！中国和西藏的关系远远比《中国日报》和“自由西藏运动”所宣称的那样要来得复杂， 为了公平讨论起见，建议你倾听一下美国国家“美中关系委员会”最近会议的呼声.为公平起见，请您亲自到西藏生活几年。当我们尝试共产主义制度时，你们把我们当作共产主义分子加以憎恨。或多或少，确实如此。中国过去也把美国当作资本主义自由民主的代表加以憎恨。那完全是一个被仇恨和恐惧充满的时代。说到憎恨这里面有一个主次先后问题，是谁先憎恨了谁呢？当我们拥抱资本主义时，你们又把我们当作万恶的资本家加以憎恨。不完全是。可美国人确实有些对中国心存忌惮，因为中国用西方几百年累积开出的药方获取了财富和实力，而且还是通过所谓“中国特色”实现的。确实不值得同情。当我们拥有人口过十亿，你们说我们会毁了地球。美利坚合众国，很显然，在此问题上毫无资格对别国破坏自然环境作道德批评。但基于长期的经验，美国绝对有资格从环境科学角度提出评价，建议更好的方式方法，汇同更多民间或官方的关注自身土地、空气和水源的中国人，来促进更加绿色的环保技术在中国的使用。中国人对此的抱怨是其情绪性宣泄中最危险的一种：即对批评过度情绪化的反应（针对字里行间可感知到的侮辱），而不是针对批评意见中所陈述的事实部分。我个人建议：中国人应该忽视其中的不敬，正视事实，为中国人自己珍视和清洁自己的环境。据我了解中国政府对环境问题重视程度不比美国政府差。我个人建议：美国人应该忽视对别国的道德批评，从自己做起。精神病人的医嘱没人敢接受。当我们要实行计划生育限制人口过度膨胀，你们又指责我们破坏、违反人权。我们此举不是目的，只是手段。根据我的经验，大部分中国人至少是理论上支持一胎的计划生育政策，虽然他们也常常受此困扰。这种艰难的道德上的平衡是由中国人自己作出抉择的。但我还是深信，通过公开的和经常性的讨论计划生育问题的各个层面，中国人有能力创造出一种更有效更人道的人口政策。是的。当我们贫穷时，你们认为我们是狗。这不是事实。这种过度自怜的情结令人不安。美国对中国即往贫穷一直报有深切的同情，这不是一天两天的事了，这也是中美两国关系史中的亮点之一。美国曾在历史上为中国捐助款项、物资、技术甚至美国公民的生命来缓解中国人民的苦难。尽管中国的巨大物质进步是由于中国人民自身付出的勤劳和牺牲获得的，但不可否认中国的许多成就、进步都和美国有关。可能美国方面显示的对中国的同情中有屈尊和自夸的成分，但我们要明白这不是一个完美的世界，动机总是很复杂的。动机再复杂，你能允许美国的纽约被中国租借出去吗？你能允许租界里的所有机构都标上：&quot;美国人和狗不得入内&quot;吗？当我们给你们贷款，你们又为自己的国债而斥责我们。哎呀,为此深表歉意，谢谢你们的贷款!不能因为你谢谢就贷款，谴责就不贷款，不是吗？当我们建立了自己的工业体系，你们指责我们是污染大户。中国的工业，正如你们政府自己承认的一样，确实是主要的污染源。当然，美国也是污染大户。对此问题，我们应当通力协作解决之。再一次表达对你这种发问口气的不安：一个国家应当能够实事求是指出另一个国家正产生许多污染，而不被冠之以“指责另一个国家为污染大户”。一个告知病人患癌症的医生并不是在指责病人罹患癌症，也不是在显示他的权威性，更不是宣称医生自己没有或永远不会得癌症。医生只是在采取适当的步骤来达到治病救人的目的。希望我们加强合作，共同拒绝精神病人开出的医嘱。当我们卖给你们商品时，你们指责我们对全球变暖难辞其咎。我以为前面我已就此话题作过论述，我不会喋喋不休评论发问者的控诉。我对此也有些反感，我不会对喋喋不休的病人太在意。当我们走出国门购买石油，你们谩骂我们剥削和支持种族屠杀。无人曾说过购买石油是支持种族屠杀。所指责的是武装和教唆一个屠杀自己人民的产油国政府，这样的行为就使中国在种族屠杀问题上有了同谋的嫌疑。这一点其实是显而易见的，就像美国政府本身也曾资助过一些臭名昭著的政权一样。是的，我们只是去开发石油，而且那里的石油七成销往西方，你们说我们教唆政府屠杀人民，请不要说美国干过盗贼，我们中国也是盗贼，拿出证据来，反对这种想当然的信口开河。当你们为石油而开战时，你们为师出有名美其名曰“解放”。这里我不想为入侵伊拉克战争辩解，我要说明的是美国从未说过“解放伊拉克”的话。我们美国人仅称之为“伊拉克战争”。并且许多美国人反对它，自由地体现在书籍、电影还有街头抗议。他们自由地批评批评政府的立场、揭露政府的宣传，而且拒投支持战争的政客的票。抱歉我站在这儿做宣传，捍卫美国立场有两件有利的佐证，不管这种立场本身有多错误：1）在美国这样一个多元化社会里，没有诸如“美国立场”这样的概念，因为政府不能刻意垄断民意。所以也没有如你在China’s Grievances.（中国的冤屈）一文中展示的单一的“你们”的立场（我也不相信单一的“我们”的立场）；2）没有哪一个外国的对美国的批评象美国人自己对政府的批评那样尖锐、有意义和有效。这就使我们练就了一付“厚脸皮”，增强了我们的自信，而且一定程度具有了对外来侮辱的免疫性。再多元，也有一个代表你们的政府和总统吧？你们的政府和总统把入侵说成解放，这是你们美国选民不承认就能说得过去的吗？当我们迷失在动乱中，你们指责我们缺少法制。不。邓小平使中国走上了法制的正轨，这样中国才能按照自己的最大利益，避开动乱，吸引了众多的外国投资、技术和管理经验。这种指责确有其事，你现在说不我们还是欢迎。当我们捍卫法律和秩序，反对暴力时，你们却指责我们违反人权。“法律和秩序”和法制不是一回事。“法律和秩序”和法制不是一回事？运用法律维护秩序不是法制的表现？你的咬文嚼字也太没有水准了。过去当我们选择沉默时，你们说要我们去争取言论自由。 当我们不再沉默时，你们又指责我们被洗脑、恐外仇外。美国人确实很轻易就骂中国人被洗脑、恐外仇外、民族主义等等。这种冲动的做法无助于美国人了解真正发生在中国的事情。可在辩论中，诘问辩论的对手从那里获得他们的讯息、要求他们资料翔实的进行理性的辩论、建议他们讨论历史问题时先咨询历史学家等，这和骂架可不是一个概念。我也建议，凡事从诚心做起，一个极力不愿意接受事实的人，确实被洗脑了。“为什么你们恨我们如此至深？”我们不禁要问。 “不，我们并不恨你们！”，你们回答道。 我们也不仇恨你们！很高兴听到这个消息。在这个春天发生的骚动中，我关注的众多纷繁头绪中的一点就是：所有这些事情给大家产生了一个印象，那就是中国人反美，美国人仇中。两者都是错误的。我已经致力于中美关系研究22年有余，在中美两国两者身上都花了相同的时间。在我们两个国家都有许多自吹自擂、唯恐天下不乱的家伙。然而，我们互相间的吸引远远超过了互相之间的厌恶。中国人是彬彬有礼的主人，具有国际眼光，相对来说爱国更胜于民族主义倾向。 美国人对中抱有浓厚兴趣并对中国印象深刻。那就是我们欢迎那么多中国人到我们的大学学习、在我们的工厂工作、来我们的家庭作客。我们也欢迎你们来工作学习生活。但你们理解我们吗？当我的许多中国朋友使用“理解中国”之类的词汇时，他们真正指的是“接受中国对自身的理解”，更明确一些就是“接受中国共产党对中国的诠释”。但没有人希望只获得别人想灌输他们的观点。人聪明不止于此。我对中国的理解无疑是不完全的（本来也不可能完全啊），而且肯定和中共的理解不同，但这并不能说明我的理解就不合逻辑或缺乏理性。中国人本身就有许多不同的对中国的理解，就像美国人对美国一样。也许我们一起放弃“理解”的话题，大家都会好过点。确确实实希望你抛弃“接受西方人对自身的解释”的观点，抛弃偏见，真实是怎样的最好不要预设立场，不管是谁的解释，自己去认识一下才好。毛泽东有句名言：“想知道梨子的滋味最好亲自去尝一尝”，和你共勉。 “我们当然理解。”你们回答道。 我们有AFP、CNN、BBC……看来作者显然是让一个美国稻草人自问自答。能仍认识到稻草人的一面不容易，为你鼓掌你们西方人到底要从我们这里得到什么？ 仔细想想，然后再回答。提了个好问题。我认为美国人无从答起。这需要花时间来仔细斟酌。过去二十年中国的高速发展是史无前例的，这对人类发展的各个领域都有重要意义。但中国不停地在变，那些意义也随之进化发展而难以把握。我们如何评价中国的发展和随之带来的问题？我们对此没有答案，也不可能有。中国对此也没有定见，正入已故中国领导人邓小平说的：改革是摸着石头过河。可我们明确的知道其中风险很高。这就是为什么中国发生的很多事件都被非中国人严格的审视和置疑。整个世界都在对中国的发展方向忐忑不安，因而对于提出的问题，这些提问者不会在不经过自己调查研究就认可中国政府的表态。西方和东方，每一个人，都有理由质疑中国将走向何方。是啊，预设立场的调查研究确实对认识误差太大。每一个东方和西方的人，都有理由质疑，西方人到底想从我们这里得到什么？因为你还有许多机会。不要以威胁结尾。这会破坏了你宣称的有意和平的初衷.威胁了什么？够了够了，这个“同一个世界”充满了伪善。这个世界确实伪善大行其道。伪善是一个简便易行的托词借口。让我们扔掉它。我们的共同挑战是应对复杂的局面。 快扔。我们要同一个世界，同一个梦想，和世界和平不管我们要不要它，我们拥有了同一个世界，而且每一个人都希望世界和平。不同文化的分水岭在于：大部分中国人以外的世界拥有不同的梦想，而且他们都想一蹴而就实现他们的梦想……我的梦想，你的梦想，一些我不喜欢甚至深恶痛绝的人的梦想，所有的都交织和竞争在一起，在一个动荡而又平和的混沌里，祝愿最美丽的梦想成真。“同一个梦想”只有被“同一个强权”所强加。人们不喜欢“同一个强权”。这就是为什么奥运火炬在东方和西方被角逐的主要原因。西方能放弃霸权和强权吗？全世界人民为之欢呼雀跃。我们居住的这个巨大蓝色的星球足够大，足够容纳我们所有人。最好是这样。 北京奥运，好运！为了全人类的北京奥运</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>西方人,你们到底要什么?</p><p>当我们是“东亚病夫”的时候，我们被你们称为“黄祸”。</p><p>实际上，日本人最先被称为“黄祸”。那是在1895年甲午战争中，中国被日本击败后德国皇帝威廉二世杜撰出来的词汇。广而言之，我承认其中有种族因素作梗而使西方忧虑中国。但正本清源，我们还是把这一词汇的由来解释一下。虽然其中有种族的因素，但不能把西方对华的态度简单理解为种族主义。西方“恐华”的非理性层面并不意味着这种恐惧就没有理性的基础可言。</p><p>在我的印象里，黄祸出自最早是欧洲纪录蒙古入侵的记载，而不是德皇对日本人的杜撰。这句话陈述了一个事实，你解释再多有什么意思？确有此事。</p><p>当我们被标为下一个“超级大国”，我们被你们称为“威胁”。</p><p>是的，欢迎中国加入“超级大国俱乐部”。“超级大国”从来就不是一个纯粹的恭维之辞。中国，众所周知，是主导批评美国霸权的最大声音。</p><p>可见西方的这个标注伪善用意。用你自己的话回答你：中国，众所周知，是主导批评美国霸权的最大声音。</p><p>当我们闭关锁国时，你们通过走私鸦片来打开我们的市场。</p><p>确实。西方人这样做太糟糕了。有一点需要指出的是：在你提到的时期里，大部分被中国人吸食的鸦片是在中国种植，自然而然又被中国人运输和吸食。我说这个并不代表要开脱西方人的鸦片贸易的罪责，但确实从另一面质疑了在中国许多文献里兜售的有关这一时期的“邪恶的外国人\无辜的中国人”的简单武断的表述。而且，就在此同一时期，“你们眼中的”帝国主义者“ 为中国带来了第一批大学、现代意义的医院、兴办女子教育、铁路、路灯等等。当然，你可以义正辞严的回击说：中国人完全有能力自己选择恰当的时机和方式来吸收、运用这些现代化成果，而不是靠着侵犯中国的主权、剥夺中国的自然资源，由傲慢的洋大人强加到中国人身上。这是个殖民者和被殖民者一直纠缠不清的问题。有趣的是，中国人现在自己就站在殖民者的立场上来为你们在西藏事务辩解：说什么中国内地的投资把西藏从过去封建的落后境地拯救出来。看看，这是一种怎样的蜕变啊。</p><p>一个被强迫换上毒瘾的人自己种植毒品使用，这能叫自然而然？西藏历史上是中国的一部分，而香港和澳门离欧洲十万八千里，欧洲人不远千里来掠夺和贩毒那才叫殖民，。有趣的是，美国人一提新墨西哥州和夏威夷就有点不愉悦，其实不只这些，成千上万被屠杀的印第安人会让你们世世代代的美国人精神不得安宁。</p><p>当我们拥抱自由贸易时，你们又责备中国攫取了你们的工作机会。</p><p>这是个复杂的问题。但可以说西方在此问题上确实有其虚伪之处。对这些西方的牢骚我感到非常抱歉。中国人，祝贺你们，你们已经提高了那么多人的生活水准。你们中国人勤劳努力，当之无愧应该过上更舒适的生活。</p><p>我倒是要祝贺你们美国人，你们那么多人并不勤劳努力，却也享受着舒适的生活。</p><p>当我们分崩离析时，你们开进来你们的军队要所谓“利益均沾”。</p><p>西方人过去在中国的确展开过一些军事行动，但从宏观大局来看，这也并非一件坏事。让我们参考一些被真正被殖民的国家的经历，如比属刚果，再比较一下中国的遭遇，再次证明西方用武力强行打开旧中国的国门有益于中国，当然，这不可避免地带来了侮辱和剥削。可以参看Monty Python所著的Life of Brian中呈现的“罗马人到底对我们做了什么？”的情节。</p><p>纠正你，不光是武力，还有毒品，你也太高看你们了，没有毒品打前锋你真的就以为大清的旗兵绿营是软弱无力的草包？美化侵略和殖民对美国和你们美国人的形象没有任何好处，只能被历史唾弃。完全承认殖民错误才是获得殖民地人民谅解的唯一途径。</p><p>当我们重组统一时，你们西方人又高喊：自由西藏，中国侵略西藏！</p><p>中国和西藏的关系远远比《中国日报》和“自由西藏运动”所宣称的那样要来得复杂， 为了公平讨论起见，建议你倾听一下美国国家“美中关系委员会”最近会议的呼声.</p><p>为公平起见，请您亲自到西藏生活几年。</p><p>当我们尝试共产主义制度时，你们把我们当作共产主义分子加以憎恨。</p><p>或多或少，确实如此。中国过去也把美国当作资本主义自由民主的代表加以憎恨。那完全是一个被仇恨和恐惧充满的时代。</p><p>说到憎恨这里面有一个主次先后问题，是谁先憎恨了谁呢？</p><p>当我们拥抱资本主义时，你们又把我们当作万恶的资本家加以憎恨。</p><p>不完全是。可美国人确实有些对中国心存忌惮，因为中国用西方几百年累积开出的药方获取了财富和实力，而且还是通过所谓“中国特色”实现的。</p><p>确实不值得同情。</p><p>当我们拥有人口过十亿，你们说我们会毁了地球。</p><p>美利坚合众国，很显然，在此问题上毫无资格对别国破坏自然环境作道德批评。但基于长期的经验，美国绝对有资格从环境科学角度提出评价，建议更好的方式方法，汇同更多民间或官方的关注自身土地、空气和水源的中国人，来促进更加绿色的环保技术在中国的使用。中国人对此的抱怨是其情绪性宣泄中最危险的一种：即对批评过度情绪化的反应（针对字里行间可感知到的侮辱），而不是针对批评意见中所陈述的事实部分。我个人建议：中国人应该忽视其中的不敬，正视事实，为中国人自己珍视和清洁自己的环境。</p><p>据我了解中国政府对环境问题重视程度不比美国政府差。我个人建议：美国人应该忽视对别国的道德批评，从自己做起。精神病人的医嘱没人敢接受。</p><p>当我们要实行计划生育限制人口过度膨胀，你们又指责我们破坏、违反人权。</p><p>我们此举不是目的，只是手段。根据我的经验，大部分中国人至少是理论上支持一胎的计划生育政策，虽然他们也常常受此困扰。这种艰难的道德上的平衡是由中国人自己作出抉择的。但我还是深信，通过公开的和经常性的讨论计划生育问题的各个层面，中国人有能力创造出一种更有效更人道的人口政策。</p><p>是的。</p><p>当我们贫穷时，你们认为我们是狗。</p><p>这不是事实。这种过度自怜的情结令人不安。美国对中国即往贫穷一直报有深切的同情，这不是一天两天的事了，这也是中美两国关系史中的亮点之一。美国曾在历史上为中国捐助款项、物资、技术甚至美国公民的生命来缓解中国人民的苦难。尽管中国的巨大物质进步是由于中国人民自身付出的勤劳和牺牲获得的，但不可否认中国的许多成就、进步都和美国有关。可能美国方面显示的对中国的同情中有屈尊和自夸的成分，但我们要明白这不是一个完美的世界，动机总是很复杂的。</p><p>动机再复杂，你能允许美国的纽约被中国租借出去吗？你能允许租界里的所有机构都标上：&#8221;美国人和狗不得入内&#8221;吗？</p><p>当我们给你们贷款，你们又为自己的国债而斥责我们。</p><p>哎呀,为此深表歉意，谢谢你们的贷款!</p><p>不能因为你谢谢就贷款，谴责就不贷款，不是吗？</p><p>当我们建立了自己的工业体系，你们指责我们是污染大户。</p><p>中国的工业，正如你们政府自己承认的一样，确实是主要的污染源。当然，美国也是污染大户。对此问题，我们应当通力协作解决之。再一次表达对你这种发问口气的不安：一个国家应当能够实事求是指出另一个国家正产生许多污染，而不被冠之以“指责另一个国家为污染大户”。一个告知病人患癌症的医生并不是在指责病人罹患癌症，也不是在显示他的权威性，更不是宣称医生自己没有或永远不会得癌症。医生只是在采取适当的步骤来达到治病救人的目的。</p><p>希望我们加强合作，共同拒绝精神病人开出的医嘱。</p><p>当我们卖给你们商品时，你们指责我们对全球变暖难辞其咎。</p><p>我以为前面我已就此话题作过论述，我不会喋喋不休评论发问者的控诉。</p><p>我对此也有些反感，我不会对喋喋不休的病人太在意。</p><p>当我们走出国门购买石油，你们谩骂我们剥削和支持种族屠杀。</p><p>无人曾说过购买石油是支持种族屠杀。所指责的是武装和教唆一个屠杀自己人民的产油国政府，这样的行为就使中国在种族屠杀问题上有了同谋的嫌疑。这一点其实是显而易见的，就像美国政府本身也曾资助过一些臭名昭著的政权一样。</p><p>是的，我们只是去开发石油，而且那里的石油七成销往西方，你们说我们教唆政府屠杀人民，请不要说美国干过盗贼，我们中国也是盗贼，拿出证据来，反对这种想当然的信口开河。</p><p>当你们为石油而开战时，你们为师出有名美其名曰“解放”。</p><p>这里我不想为入侵伊拉克战争辩解，我要说明的是美国从未说过“解放伊拉克”的话。我们美国人仅称之为“伊拉克战争”。并且许多美国人反对它，自由地体现在书籍、电影还有街头抗议。他们自由地批评批评政府的立场、揭露政府的宣传，而且拒投支持战争的政客的票。</p><p>抱歉我站在这儿做宣传，捍卫美国立场有两件有利的佐证，不管这种立场本身有多错误：1）在美国这样一个多元化社会里，没有诸如“美国立场”这样的概念，因为政府不能刻意垄断民意。所以也没有如你在China’s Grievances.（中国的冤屈）一文中展示的单一的“你们”的立场（我也不相信单一的“我们”的立场）；2）没有哪一个外国的对美国的批评象美国人自己对政府的批评那样尖锐、有意义和有效。这就使我们练就了一付“厚脸皮”，增强了我们的自信，而且一定程度具有了对外来侮辱的免疫性。</p><p>再多元，也有一个代表你们的政府和总统吧？你们的政府和总统把入侵说成解放，这是你们美国选民不承认就能说得过去的吗？</p><p>当我们迷失在动乱中，你们指责我们缺少法制。</p><p>不。邓小平使中国走上了法制的正轨，这样中国才能按照自己的最大利益，避开动乱，吸引了众多的外国投资、技术和管理经验。</p><p>这种指责确有其事，你现在说不我们还是欢迎。</p><p>当我们捍卫法律和秩序，反对暴力时，你们却指责我们违反人权。</p><p>“法律和秩序”和法制不是一回事。</p><p>“法律和秩序”和法制不是一回事？运用法律维护秩序不是法制的表现？你的咬文嚼字也太没有水准了。</p><p>过去当我们选择沉默时，你们说要我们去争取言论自由。<br /> 当我们不再沉默时，你们又指责我们被洗脑、恐外仇外。</p><p>美国人确实很轻易就骂中国人被洗脑、恐外仇外、民族主义等等。这种冲动的做法无助于美国人了解真正发生在中国的事情。可在辩论中，诘问辩论的对手从那里获得他们的讯息、要求他们资料翔实的进行理性的辩论、建议他们讨论历史问题时先咨询历史学家等，这和骂架可不是一个概念。</p><p>我也建议，凡事从诚心做起，一个极力不愿意接受事实的人，确实被洗脑了。</p><p>“为什么你们恨我们如此至深？”我们不禁要问。<br /> “不，我们并不恨你们！”，你们回答道。<br /> 我们也不仇恨你们！</p><p>很高兴听到这个消息。在这个春天发生的骚动中，我关注的众多纷繁头绪中的一点就是：所有这些事情给大家产生了一个印象，那就是中国人反美，美国人仇中。两者都是错误的。我已经致力于中美关系研究22年有余，在中美两国两者身上都花了相同的时间。在我们两个国家都有许多自吹自擂、唯恐天下不乱的家伙。然而，我们互相间的吸引远远超过了互相之间的厌恶。中国人是彬彬有礼的主人，具有国际眼光，相对来说爱国更胜于民族主义倾向。 美国人对中抱有浓厚兴趣并对中国印象深刻。那就是我们欢迎那么多中国人到我们的大学学习、在我们的工厂工作、来我们的家庭作客。</p><p>我们也欢迎你们来工作学习生活。</p><p>但你们理解我们吗？</p><p>当我的许多中国朋友使用“理解中国”之类的词汇时，他们真正指的是“接受中国对自身的理解”，更明确一些就是“接受中国共产党对中国的诠释”。但没有人希望只获得别人想灌输他们的观点。人聪明不止于此。我对中国的理解无疑是不完全的（本来也不可能完全啊），而且肯定和中共的理解不同，但这并不能说明我的理解就不合逻辑或缺乏理性。中国人本身就有许多不同的对中国的理解，就像美国人对美国一样。也许我们一起放弃“理解”的话题，大家都会好过点。</p><p>确确实实希望你抛弃“接受西方人对自身的解释”的观点，抛弃偏见，真实是怎样的最好不要预设立场，不管是谁的解释，自己去认识一下才好。毛泽东有句名言：“想知道梨子的滋味最好亲自去尝一尝”，和你共勉。<br /> “我们当然理解。”你们回答道。<br /> 我们有AFP、CNN、BBC……</p><p>看来作者显然是让一个美国稻草人自问自答。</p><p>能仍认识到稻草人的一面不容易，为你鼓掌</p><p>你们西方人到底要从我们这里得到什么？<br /> 仔细想想，然后再回答。</p><p>提了个好问题。我认为美国人无从答起。这需要花时间来仔细斟酌。过去二十年中国的高速发展是史无前例的，这对人类发展的各个领域都有重要意义。但中国不停地在变，那些意义也随之进化发展而难以把握。我们如何评价中国的发展和随之带来的问题？我们对此没有答案，也不可能有。中国对此也没有定见，正入已故中国领导人邓小平说的：改革是摸着石头过河。可我们明确的知道其中风险很高。这就是为什么中国发生的很多事件都被非中国人严格的审视和置疑。整个世界都在对中国的发展方向忐忑不安，因而对于提出的问题，这些提问者不会在不经过自己调查研究就认可中国政府的表态。西方和东方，每一个人，都有理由质疑中国将走向何方。</p><p>是啊，预设立场的调查研究确实对认识误差太大。每一个东方和西方的人，都有理由质疑，西方人到底想从我们这里得到什么？</p><p>因为你还有许多机会。</p><p>不要以威胁结尾。这会破坏了你宣称的有意和平的初衷.</p><p>威胁了什么？</p><p>够了够了，这个“同一个世界”充满了伪善。</p><p>这个世界确实伪善大行其道。伪善是一个简便易行的托词借口。让我们扔掉它。我们的共同挑战是应对复杂的局面。<br /> 快扔。</p><p>我们要同一个世界，同一个梦想，和世界和平</p><p>不管我们要不要它，我们拥有了同一个世界，而且每一个人都希望世界和平。不同文化的分水岭在于：大部分中国人以外的世界拥有不同的梦想，而且他们都想一蹴而就实现他们的梦想……我的梦想，你的梦想，一些我不喜欢甚至深恶痛绝的人的梦想，所有的都交织和竞争在一起，在一个动荡而又平和的混沌里，祝愿最美丽的梦想成真。“同一个梦想”只有被“同一个强权”所强加。人们不喜欢“同一个强权”。这就是为什么奥运火炬在东方和西方被角逐的主要原因。</p><p>西方能放弃霸权和强权吗？全世界人民为之欢呼雀跃。</p><p>我们居住的这个巨大蓝色的星球足够大，足够容纳我们所有人。</p><p>最好是这样。<br /> 北京奥运，好运！</p><p>为了全人类的北京奥运</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jerry</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1693</link> <dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 09:08:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1693</guid> <description>&quot;Simply put, less control from the Party and the mandarins in Beijing. Loosen the reigns and drop the imperial (do not confuse w/ Western imperialism here) fascinations of China’s emperors of lore.&quot;Have you been to China lately? You still think Chinese central government and Beijing Mandarins have so much power and sway over Chinese people today?  If you ask what the ordinary Chinese what they want from the central government, it will not be &quot;less control from the Party&quot;, but probably more likely that the central government should exert control on the corrupt local government officials.It just shows how out of touch you are with the reality in China today!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Simply put, less control from the Party and the mandarins in Beijing. Loosen the reigns and drop the imperial (do not confuse w/ Western imperialism here) fascinations of China’s emperors of lore.&#8221;</p><p> Have you been to China lately? You still think Chinese central government and Beijing Mandarins have so much power and sway over Chinese people today?  If you ask what the ordinary Chinese what they want from the central government, it will not be &#8220;less control from the Party&#8221;, but probably more likely that the central government should exert control on the corrupt local government officials.</p><p>It just shows how out of touch you are with the reality in China today!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jerry</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1689</link> <dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:58:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1689</guid> <description>Sorry, the Tibetan culture website (in Chinese) I mentioned in the above post is http://tibetcul.com/It is created by a &quot;Chinese-educated&quot; Tibetan college professor, who has his own blog page at http://wangchuktseten.vip.bokee.com/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the Tibetan culture website (in Chinese) I mentioned in the above post is<br /> <a href="http://tibetcul.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tibetcul.com/</a></p><p>It is created by a &#8220;Chinese-educated&#8221; Tibetan college professor, who has his own blog page at <a href="http://wangchuktseten.vip.bokee.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wangchuktseten.vip.bokee.com/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jerry</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1688</link> <dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:54:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/my-friends-what-do-you-want-from-us/#comment-1688</guid> <description>&quot;Then you will clearly know that ALL TIBETANS are not happy under the present situation as well as the general system u apply to them.&quot;How do you know?  Do you read Chinese? If yes, well, maybe you should read this website, a Tibetan Culture portal/bogsite, where a diverse of opinions are expressed than what you heard from the Tibetan-in-exile who didn&#039;t really live there, and simply impose their own wishes on all Tibetans.In any case, I am sure everyone has things to complain about. If you were in China and heard what Rev. Wright of the (now former) pastor of Barack Obama, you&#039;d think that the blacks in this country (US) are really &quot;oppressed&quot; and want to wage a revolution against the &quot;evil whites&quot; so as to be &quot;free&quot; and &quot;independent&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then you will clearly know that ALL TIBETANS are not happy under the present situation as well as the general system u apply to them.&#8221;</p><p> How do you know?  Do you read Chinese? If yes, well, maybe you should read this website, a Tibetan Culture portal/bogsite, where a diverse of opinions are expressed than what you heard from the Tibetan-in-exile who didn&#8217;t really live there, and simply impose their own wishes on all Tibetans.</p><p>In any case, I am sure everyone has things to complain about. If you were in China and heard what Rev. Wright of the (now former) pastor of Barack Obama, you&#8217;d think that the blacks in this country (US) are really &#8220;oppressed&#8221; and want to wage a revolution against the &#8220;evil whites&#8221; so as to be &#8220;free&#8221; and &#8220;independent&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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