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	<title>Comments on: One More Olympic Secret: How Old is He Kexin (何可欣), Really? (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
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		<description>@daniel,

you are the one who is pathetic</description>
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<p>you are the one who is pathetic</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<description>I am not especially fond of CCP, but criticizing it because of some CG fireworks for TV, lipsync singing and presumably faking one&#039;s gymnast age is just pathetic.

You can criticize the PCC because they cannot stop the corruption, because the rule of law merely exists in China, because of the huge pollution made by crazy development, because of the people jailed because they dared openly criticize the PCC, but please stop with those futile reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not especially fond of CCP, but criticizing it because of some CG fireworks for TV, lipsync singing and presumably faking one&#8217;s gymnast age is just pathetic.</p>
<p>You can criticize the PCC because they cannot stop the corruption, because the rule of law merely exists in China, because of the huge pollution made by crazy development, because of the people jailed because they dared openly criticize the PCC, but please stop with those futile reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Singhdee</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tang &amp; James,
You are both brave persons to stand up against a howling mob that shows no mercy against China.
We Chinese would never press home and keep up the attacks like that, even if the other nation/party has committed a fraud.
Did we ever calumny and demonize USA relentlessly when it became common knowledge that their whole WMD and TERRORISM &#039;evidences&#039; were just fakes ??
No. we are more considerate to the feelings of others and less self-righteous and pushy than
these &#039;righteous&#039; 
 westerners.

How much mercy can you expect from these racists demons frothing in their mouths, out to sink their teeth on our jugular veins, out for our blood?
Just for a small thing like age falsification can draw such a baying herd of hounds with bloodshot eyes howling for the kill. 
What more to say if we made a bigger mistake.

I have never seen such shameless hypocrisy like this.
They feel such &#039;honest and moral&#039; outrage over age falsification of one Chinese gymnast, but cannot feel any shame at all over THEIR FALSIFICATION of more important papers/documents which leads to war, bombing, destruction, killing,torture, and projecting the blame on muslims to cover their invasions to loot oil reserves.
The evidence presented before the War Committee and even the UN regarding Saddam&#039;s hoard of WMDs was faked, doctored, photostopped and &#039;sexed-up&#039;.
The supposed document to show the link between Al Qaeda and Iraq is now shown to be a fake.
The list of names of supposed Arab extremist hijackers of the plane that crashed into one of the twin towers in 9/11 is now regarded as a big fake - because some of the supposed hijackers have been seen still alive and kicking in the Middle East. Look this up in YouTube.
The 9/11 itself is the biggest fake and con job in the world, an inside job by certain influential quarters in the government..
The despicable Iran-Contra scandal saw the shredding of most of the incriminating documents before Oliver North was grilled before a special Commitee and later found guilty of double dealing of the highest order - dealing with USA&#039;s enemy Iran ( selling them advanced weapons)and giving the money to a rightist terrorist group, the Contras in Nicaragua, which specialised in brutal massacres of peasants and villagers.
The Gulf of Tonkin Declaration was one big fat fake to justify US&#039;s barbarous bombing of North Vietnam&#039;s cities, infrastructure and civilian areas.
Google that and you will see that the supposed attack by North Vietnamese torpeodo boats was faked by the US military. There was no attack by any N. Vietnamese gunboat, but an official declaration ofN.Vietnam&#039;s &#039;treacherous attack&#039;was falsely made to serve as a justification for the brutal bombing campaign of N. Vietnam.
When a rumour started to leak out that US Military in the Korean War had carried out massacres of innocent Korean refugees, Newsweek or Times magazine put out an article saying that the veterans concerned in the NO GUN RI incident could not remember the incident and questioned if it ever happened at all.
Then, bingo, BBC got hold of the incriminating documents which proved that the US Military gave explicit orders to US soldiers to shoot all refugees, old women and children included.
Google BBC World History for No Gun Ri incident, which was just one of the countless massacres committed by US and allied South Korean troops on Korean refugees.

On the British side, fakeries exist too.
During the Falklands War, the Ministry of Defense said in official reports  that the argentinian Battle Cruiser &quot; General Belgrano&#039; was within the British declared maritime exclusive zone when she was sunk by a British submarine&#039;s torpeodo.
Later, Clive Pontin, an official in the Ministry leaked that the British gov&#039;t was telling a LIE. He had access to documents that the cruiser &quot;General Belgrano&#039; was sailing OUTSIDE AND AWAY FROM the British Exclusion Zone.
The British gov&#039;t charged Clive under the Official Secrets Act, but he won the case.
LIES, LIES,LIES, FAKES, FAKES, all FAKERIES by the west.

Now please go to Yahoo to search for this morning&#039;s news (28/29 Aug 2008)about THE 2000 OLYMPICS IN SYDNEY.
It says that THE MUSIC PLAYED BY THE SYDNEY SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA WAS FAKED!! FAKED !! FAKED !!
It says that Sydney Symphony Orchestra was actually miming/faking a pre-recorded piece of music, some of which was played by Melbourne Symphony Orchestra BEFORE the opening ceremony.
SO MUCH FOR YOUR WESTERN HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.

And the fireworks of your Salt Lake City Olympics were FAKED !!!

Call China&#039;s Olympics a Genocide Olympics ?
Wasn&#039;t the Australian 2000 Olympics also a Genocide Olympics , considering the fact that so many aborigines have been killed, and their children forcibly torn from their parents, forming the LOST GENERATION ??
And the fact too that the Aussie gov&#039;t had never apologized to the aborigines ( not even during the Olympics ) until last year when Rudd took over the reins of the gov&#039;t.

And wasn&#039;t the 1984 Los angeles Olympics in USA  also a GENOCIDE OLYMPICS , considering the fact that the white Americans had massacred so many millions of Red Indians, leaving only a pitiful remnant in the arid and harsh reservations,decimated slowly by despair, alcoholism and suicides, the same fate which the australian aborigines find themselves in.
If not PHYSICAL GENOCIDE ( which really happened), these two countries are definitely guilty of GENOCIDE BY DESPAIR AND REMOVAL OF THE DIGNITY OF THE NATIVE PEOPLES.


Gosh, the hypocrisy of some of the Congresswomen and -men, who were seen shedding ( we call them CROCODILE TEARS )tears when the Dalai Lama spout so-called human rights abuses in China in the Congress.( See YouTube )
The hypocrisy is so laughable and sickening.
They can shed tears for someone far away from USA, BUT CANNOT EVEN SHED A TEAR OR EVEN FEEL A TWINGE OF REMORSE FOR THE MILLIONS OF RED INDIANS KILLED IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD AND THOSE STILL DESPAIRING IN THE RESERVATIONS.

A spectator will shout at them, &quot;&quot; CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME !!! LOOK AT YOUR OWN BACKYARD AND SEE HOW MANY RED INDIANS ARE STILL LANGUISHING AND LOSING THEIR DIGNITY AND EVEN THE WILL TO LIVE, WHILE YOU ARE ENGAGED IN A SOAP OPERA OF CRYING FOR AND TRYING TO SAVE A MYTHICAL SHANGRI-LA 7 TO 8,000 MILES AWAY.
INSTEAD OF THE DALAI, THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSING AND TRAIPSING THE CONGRESS AND MOVING YOU TO SHED TEARS ARE THE RED INDIAN CHIEFS, MILLIONS OF WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE SYSTEMATICALLY KILLED BY YOU.
AT LEAST YOU OUGHT TO HAVE SOME PITY FOR THE REMAINING ONES.
NO, NONE AT ALL. NO COMPENSATION, NO APOLOGY ( FOR 200 YEARS ALREADY ). JUST A SILENT CONSPIRACY AMONG YOU SO HUMAN-RIGHTS CONSCIOUS AND DEMOCRATIC AMERICANS TO LET THEM DIE OFF SLOWLY AND QUIETLY.

CONSPIRACY TO CHEAT ? YES , YOU ARE guilty.
All of you are silent regarding the fate of the genocided natives , hoping they will fade away.
Instead you shout at others&#039; perceived ethnic persecution to draw attention away permanently from your ugly genocide sore.

Restitution ?? Amends ?? Compensation ?? NEVER !!
Would you ever give the Lakota Plains Indians the lands they want to form an autonomous state ? NEVER !! NEVER !!! 
 Your media, printed and electronic, all conspire in this silence to deny their existence and problem.
The first thing we learn in any MEDIA COURSE at any Western University is this : &quot; Don&#039;t expect to find any media treatment - let alone fair treatment- of the Red Indian problem in the States.&quot; You will be hard put to find any substantial info on the Red Indian problem, all our lecturers advised us.
Who is faking about the existence of the native peoples ??

WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE PERFECT BUT THAT one should not just jump in malicious glee over the mistake of the Chinese when everyone else is doing it, especially the loudest accusers.
And they do worse fakes which involves the taking of millions of others&#039; lives , wars, conflicts over oil, silencing of their own peoples ( Patriotism Act, Homeland security related legislation ) etc...

One post says 11 Chinese swimmers were caught using drugs in Hiroshima.
As if only the Chinese do that, others are perfect saints.

Let me ask them :

WHO WERE THE ORIGINAL INVENTORS OF THESE METHODS OF CHEATING - especially anabolic steroids and EPO ??
WAS IT NOT THE WEST ??

Where did we learn this ( drug-cheating) from ??
FROM THE WEST, WHICH WAS ALREADY LEAGUES AHEAD OF US IN THIS AREA when we started to join the Olympics.

Are the following drug -cheaters Chinese ??

1. Marion Jones and ex-hubby Hunter.
( Both were guilty of drug-cheating to get medals in Olympics. )
Were they taught by Chinese ?
And their coach was also ound guilty of distributing steroids and drugs to many other athletes.

2. Ben Johnson
( The Canadian sprinter who was caught twice using drugs to enhance performance.)
Did the Chinese teach him that ?

3.LE TOUR DE FRANCE

Oh la la, mamma mia, Mon Dieu, Dios mio !!!!
How many Europeans in this Cycling Tour have been caught using drugs to cheat !! We have LOST COUNT already.
It&#039;s certainly nothing to be proud of.

4. How many westerners have been caught this time ( 2008 Beijing ) using drugs to cheat ?
MANY. MANY have been stripped of their titles and asked to go home.
Chinese - how many ?
Only 2 or 3 and they had been weeded out even before the Games.

Why do the Chinese need to cheat ?
Because of the merciless pilloring that your media and politicians subject China to, the relentless China Threat hype, the daily condemnation of human rights abuses, the China-bashing during the Olympic Torch run...
It&#039;s the natural reaction of ANYONE in such a situation to feel desperate to show the best image possible or else the vilture media of the West will swoop on and blow up any weakness that they might find in China.
In these circumstances, China falls into the trap or vicious cycle of resorting to manipulations to present its best foot forward to the merciless scrutiny of a Western press out to have a field day to show the superiority of its values.
In trying to better its image, China gets caught and earns more ridicule, laughter and ridicule - just what the envious West was looking for: an opportunity to catch us making a mistake.

Learn a lesson from this, China.
STOP STAGING INTERNATIONAL EVENTS. DON&#039;T EVER HOPE TO GAIN RECOGNITION FROM THE WEST BY STAGING SUCCESSFUL EVENTS - THEY WILL FIND INNUMERABLE WAYS TO TRIP YOU.
AND THEY WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOU AS THEIR EQUAL ! TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, MAINLAND CHINESE.
SO CEASE YOUR FUTILE STRIVINGS TO GAIN APPROVAL FROM THE WEST.THEY WILL FIND EVERY THING WRONG WITH YOU, EVEN TRIVIAL THINGS THEY WILL BLOW IT UP.

THEY ARE OUT JUST TO HURT YOU, GET IT QUITE CLEAR.

CHUCK OFF THE PARALYMPICS ( COMING SEPTEMBER ) TOO. THEY WILL USE THIS AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BASH, SHAME AND HUMILIATE YOU.

SETTLE DOWN TO HARD WORK, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.
DON&#039;T WASTE YOUR MONEY ANY MORE.
THE 50 BILLION STERLING POUNDS SPENT ON THE OLYMPICS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SPENT ON A STRONG DEFENSE CAPABILITY. ONLY THIS WILL GAIN THE RESPECT OF THE OTHERS, NOT YOUR PROWESS IN SPORTS OR THE ARTS, NOT FINE CULTURE OR YOUR LANGUAGE, NOT EVEN ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.

IT&#039;S YOUR SUPERIOR DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL GAIN THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, REMEMBER THIS.
WHY DOES THE WORLD HAVE A FEARFUL RESPECT OF USA ?? 
NOT BECAUSE OF HER SO-CALLED &quot;DEMOCRACY&quot; WHICH SAW THE INVASIONS OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, THE BRUTAKISATION OF HER ARMED FORCES AND THE INCREASING DICTATORSHIP IN THE HOMELAND WHICH WILL SOON CULMINATE IN AUSCHWITZ-LIKE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ( FEMA CAMPS) FOR HER OWN CITIZENS.
THEY FEAR HER FEARSOME WEAPONS, NOT RESPECT HER HIGH-FALUTIN&#039; HUMAN RIGHTS. LOOK AT HOW EU AND USA TREAT RUSSIA WITH KID GLOVES REGARDING RUSSIA&#039;S ENTRY INTO SOUTH OSSETIA AND ABKHAZIA TO PROTECT RUSSIAN PEOPLE THERE.THEY WILL NOT DARE TO PUSH THINGS TOO FAR WITH RUSSIA BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE HUGE ARSENAL OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS RUSSIA POSSESSSES - BOTH USA AND RUSSIA HAVE ABOUT 12,000 NUCLEAR MISSILES.
AND THEY NEVER DARE TO BASH RUSSIA OVER HER SUPPRESSION OF THE CHECHEN REBELS IN CHECHNYA. Not so with China. They will do everything to stir up trouble for China over Tibet or even Xinjiang.
IF THE WEST EVER STIRS UP THE XINJIANG MUSLIM JIHADISTS, WE MUST IMMEDIATELY SUPPORT THE TALIBAN AND ALL RADICAL MUSLIM JIHADISTS.

WHAT HAVE YOU CHINA GOT ? JUST OVER 200 NUCLEAR MISSILES AND ONLY A FEW DOZENS CAN REACH THE USA, PROVIDED YOU CAN GET YOUR SUBMARINES CLOSE ENOUGH TO USA.
SO PLEASE SETTLE DOWN TO MANUFACTURE URGENTLY MORE NUCLEAR MISSILES, AND SMART ONES AT THAT, COS THEY HAVE THE ANTI-BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEMS TO DEFEAT YOUR NUCLEAR DETERRENCE.

THE OVERRIDING IMPORTANCE OF A COUNTRY&#039;S DEFENCE CAPABILITY WAS TAUGHT TO ME BY A GROUP OF BRITISH SOLDIERS WHILE I WAS TAKING A NIGHT TRAIN FROM SCOTLAND TO LONDON.
AT FIRST THE SOLDIERS DID NOT WANT TO SIT WITH US CHINESE ( TWO OF US ). 
i HEARD THEM SAY CLEARLY TO THEMSELVES, WITHIN OUR EARSHOT,&quot; I AM NOT GOING TO SIT WITH THE CHINESE BASTARDS &quot;. THEY WENT THROUGH THE LENGTH AND BREADTH OF THE TRAIN BUT COULD NOT FIND A SEAT AND EVENTUALLY CAME BREEZING INTO OUR COMPARTMENT.
AFTER A SHORT CONVERSATION WITH THE &quot; CHINESE BASTARDS &quot;, THEY BEGAN TO TOUCH ON THE LATEST ( IN 1982)  NUCLEAR MISSILE TEST BY THE CHINESE OF A NEW TYPE OF MISSILE WHICH COULD REACH THE PACIFIC ISLANDS, MEANING IT COULD REACH USA TOO.
WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE BRITISH SOLDIERS REMARKED THAT FROM THEN ON, BRITAIN SHOULD HAVE A HEALTHIER RESPECT OF CHINA.
GOT THAT, MAINLAND CHINESE ??
A POWERFUL MISSILE CAPABILITY CAN CHANGE CHINESE BASTARDS OVERNIGHT INTO A RESPECTED RACE. THINK OF IT. NOT HOW MANY MEDALS YOU WON IN THE OLYMPICS.
DO NOT WASTE YOUR HARD-EARNED MONEY AND TIME NOW ON SHOW GLITTER TO IMPRESS THE WEST TO HAVE A BETTER OPINION OF YOU.
THEY HAVE ALREADY STEREOTYPED YOU AS INCORRIGIBLY EVIL AND BEYOND REDEMPTION, SO LET&#039;S SETTLE DOWN TO WORK SERIOUSLY TO STRENGTHEN OUR NATION AND OUR DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY AND CAPABILITY.

There&#039;s one post here by johndoe which expresses aptly and succinctly the &#039;final solution&#039; attitude the West harbours towards China.
He proposes nuking China because we are irredeemable evil people. He makes no bones about wiping the Chinese off the face of the earth.
He is the only honest devil and his proposal to nuke China reveals the true ulterior motive of the bloodhound critics in this forum, baring their fangs at the Chinese and screaming LIES, LIES, SHAME, SHAME, etc.... .
All this professed &#039;moral outrage&#039; over China&#039;s fakeries in the Olympics is but a camouflage for a more sinister grand strategy -ie. to build up steadily the demonization and hatred of all things Chinese to a crescendo, so that at the peak/crest of this ballooning hate-wave, everyone in this world will agree to have China nuked, without batting an eyelid, because they will have been brainwashed to feel strongly that the Chinese are all evil beyond remedy, as johndoe aptly reveals, unable to contain his hatred of everything Chinese.

Chinese, inform Hu Jin Tao or Wen Jia Bao that we are in a dangerous time now. They are just waiting for us to make the slightest mistake to give them the excuse to nuke us , and they will provoke us to make silly mistakes.
They know they will win now because they enjoy an overwhelming superiority in the number of nuclesr missile - some 12,000 altogether.
China has only a paltry miserable 200 plus nuclear missiles, of which less than half can reach the States.
To protect yourself from nuclesr strikes by USA, you have 2 options:

1. Ally yourself closely with Russia.
This is a sensible path. Do not make the same mistake as proud Mao did in going it alone, without Russia&#039;s support and solidarity. We need a strong friend too.And Russia is a better friend than USA.

2.have an insurance against US nuke attacks by creating this deterrent:
Make multiple copies of the blueprints of your nuclear missiles, secrete them in many places outside China with an activator code. In the event of a nuclear attack by USA ( China will be totally destroyed )on China, special agents worldwide will release these blueprints to all arab terrorist groups like Al Qaedah, the Taliban etc. etc. and to the Serbs.
If we all die and China is reduced to ashes, at least we can take comfort in the fact that the Americans will never be able to live in peace thereafter. They will be in living hell, shaking daily with cold sweat over when is the next attack on USA and from where.
America should not have overconfidence in her superiority in the number and quality of nuclear weapons and think that she can bully any nation.
There are ways to equalize the odds through asymmetrical warfare.
Hu Jin Tao, please take this suggestion seriously or else you ( Mainland Chinese ) will all be sitting ducks for US nuclear strikes in future.
Prepare for a disaster beforehand, but we will never strike the first blow, unless exceedingly provoked to or cornered against the wall facing certain death or humiliation.
USA and the West, don&#039;t be overconfident and think that you can still bully China ( or other nations ) as you did before.
We want to live in peace with everyone but you do not.We never want to meddle in other nations&#039; affairs.
Live and let live. Peaceful existence, not condemnation from your high horse.
Choose wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tang &amp; James,<br />
You are both brave persons to stand up against a howling mob that shows no mercy against China.<br />
We Chinese would never press home and keep up the attacks like that, even if the other nation/party has committed a fraud.<br />
Did we ever calumny and demonize USA relentlessly when it became common knowledge that their whole WMD and TERRORISM &#8216;evidences&#8217; were just fakes ??<br />
No. we are more considerate to the feelings of others and less self-righteous and pushy than<br />
these &#8216;righteous&#8217;<br />
 westerners.</p>
<p>How much mercy can you expect from these racists demons frothing in their mouths, out to sink their teeth on our jugular veins, out for our blood?<br />
Just for a small thing like age falsification can draw such a baying herd of hounds with bloodshot eyes howling for the kill.<br />
What more to say if we made a bigger mistake.</p>
<p>I have never seen such shameless hypocrisy like this.<br />
They feel such &#8216;honest and moral&#8217; outrage over age falsification of one Chinese gymnast, but cannot feel any shame at all over THEIR FALSIFICATION of more important papers/documents which leads to war, bombing, destruction, killing,torture, and projecting the blame on muslims to cover their invasions to loot oil reserves.<br />
The evidence presented before the War Committee and even the UN regarding Saddam&#8217;s hoard of WMDs was faked, doctored, photostopped and &#8217;sexed-up&#8217;.<br />
The supposed document to show the link between Al Qaeda and Iraq is now shown to be a fake.<br />
The list of names of supposed Arab extremist hijackers of the plane that crashed into one of the twin towers in 9/11 is now regarded as a big fake &#8211; because some of the supposed hijackers have been seen still alive and kicking in the Middle East. Look this up in YouTube.<br />
The 9/11 itself is the biggest fake and con job in the world, an inside job by certain influential quarters in the government..<br />
The despicable Iran-Contra scandal saw the shredding of most of the incriminating documents before Oliver North was grilled before a special Commitee and later found guilty of double dealing of the highest order &#8211; dealing with USA&#8217;s enemy Iran ( selling them advanced weapons)and giving the money to a rightist terrorist group, the Contras in Nicaragua, which specialised in brutal massacres of peasants and villagers.<br />
The Gulf of Tonkin Declaration was one big fat fake to justify US&#8217;s barbarous bombing of North Vietnam&#8217;s cities, infrastructure and civilian areas.<br />
Google that and you will see that the supposed attack by North Vietnamese torpeodo boats was faked by the US military. There was no attack by any N. Vietnamese gunboat, but an official declaration ofN.Vietnam&#8217;s &#8216;treacherous attack&#8217;was falsely made to serve as a justification for the brutal bombing campaign of N. Vietnam.<br />
When a rumour started to leak out that US Military in the Korean War had carried out massacres of innocent Korean refugees, Newsweek or Times magazine put out an article saying that the veterans concerned in the NO GUN RI incident could not remember the incident and questioned if it ever happened at all.<br />
Then, bingo, BBC got hold of the incriminating documents which proved that the US Military gave explicit orders to US soldiers to shoot all refugees, old women and children included.<br />
Google BBC World History for No Gun Ri incident, which was just one of the countless massacres committed by US and allied South Korean troops on Korean refugees.</p>
<p>On the British side, fakeries exist too.<br />
During the Falklands War, the Ministry of Defense said in official reports  that the argentinian Battle Cruiser &#8221; General Belgrano&#8217; was within the British declared maritime exclusive zone when she was sunk by a British submarine&#8217;s torpeodo.<br />
Later, Clive Pontin, an official in the Ministry leaked that the British gov&#8217;t was telling a LIE. He had access to documents that the cruiser &#8220;General Belgrano&#8217; was sailing OUTSIDE AND AWAY FROM the British Exclusion Zone.<br />
The British gov&#8217;t charged Clive under the Official Secrets Act, but he won the case.<br />
LIES, LIES,LIES, FAKES, FAKES, all FAKERIES by the west.</p>
<p>Now please go to Yahoo to search for this morning&#8217;s news (28/29 Aug 2008)about THE 2000 OLYMPICS IN SYDNEY.<br />
It says that THE MUSIC PLAYED BY THE SYDNEY SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA WAS FAKED!! FAKED !! FAKED !!<br />
It says that Sydney Symphony Orchestra was actually miming/faking a pre-recorded piece of music, some of which was played by Melbourne Symphony Orchestra BEFORE the opening ceremony.<br />
SO MUCH FOR YOUR WESTERN HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.</p>
<p>And the fireworks of your Salt Lake City Olympics were FAKED !!!</p>
<p>Call China&#8217;s Olympics a Genocide Olympics ?<br />
Wasn&#8217;t the Australian 2000 Olympics also a Genocide Olympics , considering the fact that so many aborigines have been killed, and their children forcibly torn from their parents, forming the LOST GENERATION ??<br />
And the fact too that the Aussie gov&#8217;t had never apologized to the aborigines ( not even during the Olympics ) until last year when Rudd took over the reins of the gov&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And wasn&#8217;t the 1984 Los angeles Olympics in USA  also a GENOCIDE OLYMPICS , considering the fact that the white Americans had massacred so many millions of Red Indians, leaving only a pitiful remnant in the arid and harsh reservations,decimated slowly by despair, alcoholism and suicides, the same fate which the australian aborigines find themselves in.<br />
If not PHYSICAL GENOCIDE ( which really happened), these two countries are definitely guilty of GENOCIDE BY DESPAIR AND REMOVAL OF THE DIGNITY OF THE NATIVE PEOPLES.</p>
<p>Gosh, the hypocrisy of some of the Congresswomen and -men, who were seen shedding ( we call them CROCODILE TEARS )tears when the Dalai Lama spout so-called human rights abuses in China in the Congress.( See YouTube )<br />
The hypocrisy is so laughable and sickening.<br />
They can shed tears for someone far away from USA, BUT CANNOT EVEN SHED A TEAR OR EVEN FEEL A TWINGE OF REMORSE FOR THE MILLIONS OF RED INDIANS KILLED IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD AND THOSE STILL DESPAIRING IN THE RESERVATIONS.</p>
<p>A spectator will shout at them, &#8220;&#8221; CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME !!! LOOK AT YOUR OWN BACKYARD AND SEE HOW MANY RED INDIANS ARE STILL LANGUISHING AND LOSING THEIR DIGNITY AND EVEN THE WILL TO LIVE, WHILE YOU ARE ENGAGED IN A SOAP OPERA OF CRYING FOR AND TRYING TO SAVE A MYTHICAL SHANGRI-LA 7 TO 8,000 MILES AWAY.<br />
INSTEAD OF THE DALAI, THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSING AND TRAIPSING THE CONGRESS AND MOVING YOU TO SHED TEARS ARE THE RED INDIAN CHIEFS, MILLIONS OF WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE SYSTEMATICALLY KILLED BY YOU.<br />
AT LEAST YOU OUGHT TO HAVE SOME PITY FOR THE REMAINING ONES.<br />
NO, NONE AT ALL. NO COMPENSATION, NO APOLOGY ( FOR 200 YEARS ALREADY ). JUST A SILENT CONSPIRACY AMONG YOU SO HUMAN-RIGHTS CONSCIOUS AND DEMOCRATIC AMERICANS TO LET THEM DIE OFF SLOWLY AND QUIETLY.</p>
<p>CONSPIRACY TO CHEAT ? YES , YOU ARE guilty.<br />
All of you are silent regarding the fate of the genocided natives , hoping they will fade away.<br />
Instead you shout at others&#8217; perceived ethnic persecution to draw attention away permanently from your ugly genocide sore.</p>
<p>Restitution ?? Amends ?? Compensation ?? NEVER !!<br />
Would you ever give the Lakota Plains Indians the lands they want to form an autonomous state ? NEVER !! NEVER !!!<br />
 Your media, printed and electronic, all conspire in this silence to deny their existence and problem.<br />
The first thing we learn in any MEDIA COURSE at any Western University is this : &#8221; Don&#8217;t expect to find any media treatment &#8211; let alone fair treatment- of the Red Indian problem in the States.&#8221; You will be hard put to find any substantial info on the Red Indian problem, all our lecturers advised us.<br />
Who is faking about the existence of the native peoples ??</p>
<p>WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE PERFECT BUT THAT one should not just jump in malicious glee over the mistake of the Chinese when everyone else is doing it, especially the loudest accusers.<br />
And they do worse fakes which involves the taking of millions of others&#8217; lives , wars, conflicts over oil, silencing of their own peoples ( Patriotism Act, Homeland security related legislation ) etc&#8230;</p>
<p>One post says 11 Chinese swimmers were caught using drugs in Hiroshima.<br />
As if only the Chinese do that, others are perfect saints.</p>
<p>Let me ask them :</p>
<p>WHO WERE THE ORIGINAL INVENTORS OF THESE METHODS OF CHEATING &#8211; especially anabolic steroids and EPO ??<br />
WAS IT NOT THE WEST ??</p>
<p>Where did we learn this ( drug-cheating) from ??<br />
FROM THE WEST, WHICH WAS ALREADY LEAGUES AHEAD OF US IN THIS AREA when we started to join the Olympics.</p>
<p>Are the following drug -cheaters Chinese ??</p>
<p>1. Marion Jones and ex-hubby Hunter.<br />
( Both were guilty of drug-cheating to get medals in Olympics. )<br />
Were they taught by Chinese ?<br />
And their coach was also ound guilty of distributing steroids and drugs to many other athletes.</p>
<p>2. Ben Johnson<br />
( The Canadian sprinter who was caught twice using drugs to enhance performance.)<br />
Did the Chinese teach him that ?</p>
<p>3.LE TOUR DE FRANCE</p>
<p>Oh la la, mamma mia, Mon Dieu, Dios mio !!!!<br />
How many Europeans in this Cycling Tour have been caught using drugs to cheat !! We have LOST COUNT already.<br />
It&#8217;s certainly nothing to be proud of.</p>
<p>4. How many westerners have been caught this time ( 2008 Beijing ) using drugs to cheat ?<br />
MANY. MANY have been stripped of their titles and asked to go home.<br />
Chinese &#8211; how many ?<br />
Only 2 or 3 and they had been weeded out even before the Games.</p>
<p>Why do the Chinese need to cheat ?<br />
Because of the merciless pilloring that your media and politicians subject China to, the relentless China Threat hype, the daily condemnation of human rights abuses, the China-bashing during the Olympic Torch run&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s the natural reaction of ANYONE in such a situation to feel desperate to show the best image possible or else the vilture media of the West will swoop on and blow up any weakness that they might find in China.<br />
In these circumstances, China falls into the trap or vicious cycle of resorting to manipulations to present its best foot forward to the merciless scrutiny of a Western press out to have a field day to show the superiority of its values.<br />
In trying to better its image, China gets caught and earns more ridicule, laughter and ridicule &#8211; just what the envious West was looking for: an opportunity to catch us making a mistake.</p>
<p>Learn a lesson from this, China.<br />
STOP STAGING INTERNATIONAL EVENTS. DON&#8217;T EVER HOPE TO GAIN RECOGNITION FROM THE WEST BY STAGING SUCCESSFUL EVENTS &#8211; THEY WILL FIND INNUMERABLE WAYS TO TRIP YOU.<br />
AND THEY WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOU AS THEIR EQUAL ! TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, MAINLAND CHINESE.<br />
SO CEASE YOUR FUTILE STRIVINGS TO GAIN APPROVAL FROM THE WEST.THEY WILL FIND EVERY THING WRONG WITH YOU, EVEN TRIVIAL THINGS THEY WILL BLOW IT UP.</p>
<p>THEY ARE OUT JUST TO HURT YOU, GET IT QUITE CLEAR.</p>
<p>CHUCK OFF THE PARALYMPICS ( COMING SEPTEMBER ) TOO. THEY WILL USE THIS AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BASH, SHAME AND HUMILIATE YOU.</p>
<p>SETTLE DOWN TO HARD WORK, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.<br />
DON&#8217;T WASTE YOUR MONEY ANY MORE.<br />
THE 50 BILLION STERLING POUNDS SPENT ON THE OLYMPICS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER SPENT ON A STRONG DEFENSE CAPABILITY. ONLY THIS WILL GAIN THE RESPECT OF THE OTHERS, NOT YOUR PROWESS IN SPORTS OR THE ARTS, NOT FINE CULTURE OR YOUR LANGUAGE, NOT EVEN ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.</p>
<p>IT&#8217;S YOUR SUPERIOR DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL GAIN THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, REMEMBER THIS.<br />
WHY DOES THE WORLD HAVE A FEARFUL RESPECT OF USA ??<br />
NOT BECAUSE OF HER SO-CALLED &#8220;DEMOCRACY&#8221; WHICH SAW THE INVASIONS OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, THE BRUTAKISATION OF HER ARMED FORCES AND THE INCREASING DICTATORSHIP IN THE HOMELAND WHICH WILL SOON CULMINATE IN AUSCHWITZ-LIKE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ( FEMA CAMPS) FOR HER OWN CITIZENS.<br />
THEY FEAR HER FEARSOME WEAPONS, NOT RESPECT HER HIGH-FALUTIN&#8217; HUMAN RIGHTS. LOOK AT HOW EU AND USA TREAT RUSSIA WITH KID GLOVES REGARDING RUSSIA&#8217;S ENTRY INTO SOUTH OSSETIA AND ABKHAZIA TO PROTECT RUSSIAN PEOPLE THERE.THEY WILL NOT DARE TO PUSH THINGS TOO FAR WITH RUSSIA BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE HUGE ARSENAL OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS RUSSIA POSSESSSES &#8211; BOTH USA AND RUSSIA HAVE ABOUT 12,000 NUCLEAR MISSILES.<br />
AND THEY NEVER DARE TO BASH RUSSIA OVER HER SUPPRESSION OF THE CHECHEN REBELS IN CHECHNYA. Not so with China. They will do everything to stir up trouble for China over Tibet or even Xinjiang.<br />
IF THE WEST EVER STIRS UP THE XINJIANG MUSLIM JIHADISTS, WE MUST IMMEDIATELY SUPPORT THE TALIBAN AND ALL RADICAL MUSLIM JIHADISTS.</p>
<p>WHAT HAVE YOU CHINA GOT ? JUST OVER 200 NUCLEAR MISSILES AND ONLY A FEW DOZENS CAN REACH THE USA, PROVIDED YOU CAN GET YOUR SUBMARINES CLOSE ENOUGH TO USA.<br />
SO PLEASE SETTLE DOWN TO MANUFACTURE URGENTLY MORE NUCLEAR MISSILES, AND SMART ONES AT THAT, COS THEY HAVE THE ANTI-BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEMS TO DEFEAT YOUR NUCLEAR DETERRENCE.</p>
<p>THE OVERRIDING IMPORTANCE OF A COUNTRY&#8217;S DEFENCE CAPABILITY WAS TAUGHT TO ME BY A GROUP OF BRITISH SOLDIERS WHILE I WAS TAKING A NIGHT TRAIN FROM SCOTLAND TO LONDON.<br />
AT FIRST THE SOLDIERS DID NOT WANT TO SIT WITH US CHINESE ( TWO OF US ).<br />
i HEARD THEM SAY CLEARLY TO THEMSELVES, WITHIN OUR EARSHOT,&#8221; I AM NOT GOING TO SIT WITH THE CHINESE BASTARDS &#8220;. THEY WENT THROUGH THE LENGTH AND BREADTH OF THE TRAIN BUT COULD NOT FIND A SEAT AND EVENTUALLY CAME BREEZING INTO OUR COMPARTMENT.<br />
AFTER A SHORT CONVERSATION WITH THE &#8221; CHINESE BASTARDS &#8220;, THEY BEGAN TO TOUCH ON THE LATEST ( IN 1982)  NUCLEAR MISSILE TEST BY THE CHINESE OF A NEW TYPE OF MISSILE WHICH COULD REACH THE PACIFIC ISLANDS, MEANING IT COULD REACH USA TOO.<br />
WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE BRITISH SOLDIERS REMARKED THAT FROM THEN ON, BRITAIN SHOULD HAVE A HEALTHIER RESPECT OF CHINA.<br />
GOT THAT, MAINLAND CHINESE ??<br />
A POWERFUL MISSILE CAPABILITY CAN CHANGE CHINESE BASTARDS OVERNIGHT INTO A RESPECTED RACE. THINK OF IT. NOT HOW MANY MEDALS YOU WON IN THE OLYMPICS.<br />
DO NOT WASTE YOUR HARD-EARNED MONEY AND TIME NOW ON SHOW GLITTER TO IMPRESS THE WEST TO HAVE A BETTER OPINION OF YOU.<br />
THEY HAVE ALREADY STEREOTYPED YOU AS INCORRIGIBLY EVIL AND BEYOND REDEMPTION, SO LET&#8217;S SETTLE DOWN TO WORK SERIOUSLY TO STRENGTHEN OUR NATION AND OUR DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY AND CAPABILITY.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one post here by johndoe which expresses aptly and succinctly the &#8216;final solution&#8217; attitude the West harbours towards China.<br />
He proposes nuking China because we are irredeemable evil people. He makes no bones about wiping the Chinese off the face of the earth.<br />
He is the only honest devil and his proposal to nuke China reveals the true ulterior motive of the bloodhound critics in this forum, baring their fangs at the Chinese and screaming LIES, LIES, SHAME, SHAME, etc&#8230;. .<br />
All this professed &#8216;moral outrage&#8217; over China&#8217;s fakeries in the Olympics is but a camouflage for a more sinister grand strategy -ie. to build up steadily the demonization and hatred of all things Chinese to a crescendo, so that at the peak/crest of this ballooning hate-wave, everyone in this world will agree to have China nuked, without batting an eyelid, because they will have been brainwashed to feel strongly that the Chinese are all evil beyond remedy, as johndoe aptly reveals, unable to contain his hatred of everything Chinese.</p>
<p>Chinese, inform Hu Jin Tao or Wen Jia Bao that we are in a dangerous time now. They are just waiting for us to make the slightest mistake to give them the excuse to nuke us , and they will provoke us to make silly mistakes.<br />
They know they will win now because they enjoy an overwhelming superiority in the number of nuclesr missile &#8211; some 12,000 altogether.<br />
China has only a paltry miserable 200 plus nuclear missiles, of which less than half can reach the States.<br />
To protect yourself from nuclesr strikes by USA, you have 2 options:</p>
<p>1. Ally yourself closely with Russia.<br />
This is a sensible path. Do not make the same mistake as proud Mao did in going it alone, without Russia&#8217;s support and solidarity. We need a strong friend too.And Russia is a better friend than USA.</p>
<p>2.have an insurance against US nuke attacks by creating this deterrent:<br />
Make multiple copies of the blueprints of your nuclear missiles, secrete them in many places outside China with an activator code. In the event of a nuclear attack by USA ( China will be totally destroyed )on China, special agents worldwide will release these blueprints to all arab terrorist groups like Al Qaedah, the Taliban etc. etc. and to the Serbs.<br />
If we all die and China is reduced to ashes, at least we can take comfort in the fact that the Americans will never be able to live in peace thereafter. They will be in living hell, shaking daily with cold sweat over when is the next attack on USA and from where.<br />
America should not have overconfidence in her superiority in the number and quality of nuclear weapons and think that she can bully any nation.<br />
There are ways to equalize the odds through asymmetrical warfare.<br />
Hu Jin Tao, please take this suggestion seriously or else you ( Mainland Chinese ) will all be sitting ducks for US nuclear strikes in future.<br />
Prepare for a disaster beforehand, but we will never strike the first blow, unless exceedingly provoked to or cornered against the wall facing certain death or humiliation.<br />
USA and the West, don&#8217;t be overconfident and think that you can still bully China ( or other nations ) as you did before.<br />
We want to live in peace with everyone but you do not.We never want to meddle in other nations&#8217; affairs.<br />
Live and let live. Peaceful existence, not condemnation from your high horse.<br />
Choose wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James you also shoot yourself in the leg - if age 14 = no big deal then you know you are lying. It is a big deal as rules were put in place to protect young girls from the effects of the physical stress on their not yet mature bodies. Your weeping gold medal oh so proud Chinese people are weeping for people whose lives are nothing but what they achieve for the glory of others, 1 can achieve but thousands of others are left by the wayside, injured, distorted or disillusioned.

Well British divers was allowed to compete even when he is stil 14 years Does Diving required less physical training then Gymnastic? Answer me 

The rule use to be 14 years in gymnastic
but changed on the insistence of US If the reason is to protect young child body It doesn&#039;t prevent children younger than 14 to train as future Gymnast ? Go to any Gymnast boot camp and you will see children sometime as young as 10 train as gymnast. So wher is the protection here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James you also shoot yourself in the leg &#8211; if age 14 = no big deal then you know you are lying. It is a big deal as rules were put in place to protect young girls from the effects of the physical stress on their not yet mature bodies. Your weeping gold medal oh so proud Chinese people are weeping for people whose lives are nothing but what they achieve for the glory of others, 1 can achieve but thousands of others are left by the wayside, injured, distorted or disillusioned.</p>
<p>Well British divers was allowed to compete even when he is stil 14 years Does Diving required less physical training then Gymnastic? Answer me </p>
<p>The rule use to be 14 years in gymnastic<br />
but changed on the insistence of US If the reason is to protect young child body It doesn&#8217;t prevent children younger than 14 to train as future Gymnast ? Go to any Gymnast boot camp and you will see children sometime as young as 10 train as gymnast. So wher is the protection here?</p>
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		<title>By: benxiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>benxiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&gt;

If the only thing that makes you strong is the gold medal table then you are pretty pathetic. Only weak countries need to tally gold medals to vindicate their supposed strength. Most people here just need to get on with their lives - they have no time for the Olympics, maybe they can see something on TV if they are lucky, after work. They have not been to see the events, no time, nor could they care. If they did it was to try and get some tickets cheap to resell them rather less cheap. 
James you also shoot yourself in the leg - if age 14 = no big deal then you know you are lying. It is a big deal as rules were put in place to protect young girls from the effects of the physical stress on their not yet mature bodies. Your weeping gold medal oh so proud Chinese people are weeping for people whose lives are nothing but what they achieve for the glory of others, 1 can achieve but thousands of others are left by the wayside, injured, distorted or disillusioned.
Sports in China is not (I should say no longer) about bettering yourself, staying fit or young, challenges are not about testing your limits or engaging in team events and bonding, but purely about being no1.
No1 what? He Kexin is now no1 what? No1 loser, forever condemned to live as two years older than she is, having to hide her identity, pretend? For the rest of her life, for the sake of an olympic medal? Are you going to go out there and help her in her misery, her and all the others who suffer from the Soviet system they endure, because they are Heroes of the Nation? 
The true Heroes are those who built the stadiums, the subways, the facilities, paid as little as possible, working 6 days/week, (or more). And what happened to them? They get told a few days before the start that they smell and need to go back home to watch on the telly. No work, no money. Can you imagine the pride and joy these people could have felt in their hearts if they had been allowed to see the Games, to see the results of their labour at first hand? For me these were the real shame of the Games, empty seats and the real heroes (You know, Workers, remember them in your Communist ideals?), not even there to sit in them.
At least the first part is over, now we can see how well the disabled facilities hold up, I suggest the athletes try going &#039;walkabout&#039; in say Guijie or along Xiaoyun Lu or Dianmen Xi at rush hour in the evening to see how well the city and its inhabitants were designed for them. (don&#039;t event think South or West BJ)</description>
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<p>If the only thing that makes you strong is the gold medal table then you are pretty pathetic. Only weak countries need to tally gold medals to vindicate their supposed strength. Most people here just need to get on with their lives &#8211; they have no time for the Olympics, maybe they can see something on TV if they are lucky, after work. They have not been to see the events, no time, nor could they care. If they did it was to try and get some tickets cheap to resell them rather less cheap.<br />
James you also shoot yourself in the leg &#8211; if age 14 = no big deal then you know you are lying. It is a big deal as rules were put in place to protect young girls from the effects of the physical stress on their not yet mature bodies. Your weeping gold medal oh so proud Chinese people are weeping for people whose lives are nothing but what they achieve for the glory of others, 1 can achieve but thousands of others are left by the wayside, injured, distorted or disillusioned.<br />
Sports in China is not (I should say no longer) about bettering yourself, staying fit or young, challenges are not about testing your limits or engaging in team events and bonding, but purely about being no1.<br />
No1 what? He Kexin is now no1 what? No1 loser, forever condemned to live as two years older than she is, having to hide her identity, pretend? For the rest of her life, for the sake of an olympic medal? Are you going to go out there and help her in her misery, her and all the others who suffer from the Soviet system they endure, because they are Heroes of the Nation?<br />
The true Heroes are those who built the stadiums, the subways, the facilities, paid as little as possible, working 6 days/week, (or more). And what happened to them? They get told a few days before the start that they smell and need to go back home to watch on the telly. No work, no money. Can you imagine the pride and joy these people could have felt in their hearts if they had been allowed to see the Games, to see the results of their labour at first hand? For me these were the real shame of the Games, empty seats and the real heroes (You know, Workers, remember them in your Communist ideals?), not even there to sit in them.<br />
At least the first part is over, now we can see how well the disabled facilities hold up, I suggest the athletes try going &#8216;walkabout&#8217; in say Guijie or along Xiaoyun Lu or Dianmen Xi at rush hour in the evening to see how well the city and its inhabitants were designed for them. (don&#8217;t event think South or West BJ)</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just announced! Chinese Women stripped of all medals! Presented with Gummi Bears and Hello Kitty Dolls instead!</description>
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		<title>By: السلام عليكم</title>
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		<dc:creator>السلام عليكم</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-salaamu Alaikum!

May the almighty, strike you down CCP! 

This will NOT go away...

Shame on China... and for those supporting cheaters!

Just Say NO to the CCP!

He Kexin and all her relatives, parents, friends and family members all know, she was born in 1994. 

That is until the evil corrupt regime  in China wanted her to be 16 years old for their propaganda of having to win a gold medal to fake their glorious appearance of being in power.

This isn&#039;t honorable, and goes against the Qur&#039;an. Sin is sin, cheating is cheating. When will the Chinese people stand up AGAINST their evil corrupt Communist Party?


As‑Salaamu ‘Alaykum
السلام عليكم - المملكة العربية السعودية</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-salaamu Alaikum!</p>
<p>May the almighty, strike you down CCP! </p>
<p>This will NOT go away&#8230;</p>
<p>Shame on China&#8230; and for those supporting cheaters!</p>
<p>Just Say NO to the CCP!</p>
<p>He Kexin and all her relatives, parents, friends and family members all know, she was born in 1994. </p>
<p>That is until the evil corrupt regime  in China wanted her to be 16 years old for their propaganda of having to win a gold medal to fake their glorious appearance of being in power.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t honorable, and goes against the Qur&#8217;an. Sin is sin, cheating is cheating. When will the Chinese people stand up AGAINST their evil corrupt Communist Party?</p>
<p>As‑Salaamu ‘Alaykum<br />
السلام عليكم &#8211; المملكة العربية السعودية</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NADIA COMENICI WON HER GOLD MEDALS AT AGE 14 RULE ARE MADE AND CHANGE TO SERVE THE INTEREST OF US SO WHAT IS THE BID DEAL TONYA HARDING REMEMBER ANYONE</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you confirm fake documents with a fake regime that issues fake documents?

Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He’s specialty).

Yang’s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.”

We already have proof of the Chinese Communist Party faking Olympic athletes from before… 

But, the fake regime had claimed before He kexin was born in 1994, just as their CCTV and their Media, their family, parents, friends and even He Kexin. That was until the CCP decided to change her documents.

He Kexin isn&#039;t 16, she was born in 1994, and pretending to issue new fake documents, doesn&#039;t change the facts from before, as the CCP has been deleting them, removing them, taking back her old Passport as well.

I will never trust the Communist Party in China. which has already been establish they falsify documents to get their way.

Fake birth certificates, fake passports is nothing new when it comes to the CCP.

Anyone backing them, is a loser for that. Because they support cheaters!

Don&#039;t award Cheaters! 

Take back He Kexin&#039;s gold medal, for cheating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you confirm fake documents with a fake regime that issues fake documents?</p>
<p>Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He’s specialty).</p>
<p>Yang’s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.”</p>
<p>We already have proof of the Chinese Communist Party faking Olympic athletes from before… </p>
<p>But, the fake regime had claimed before He kexin was born in 1994, just as their CCTV and their Media, their family, parents, friends and even He Kexin. That was until the CCP decided to change her documents.</p>
<p>He Kexin isn&#8217;t 16, she was born in 1994, and pretending to issue new fake documents, doesn&#8217;t change the facts from before, as the CCP has been deleting them, removing them, taking back her old Passport as well.</p>
<p>I will never trust the Communist Party in China. which has already been establish they falsify documents to get their way.</p>
<p>Fake birth certificates, fake passports is nothing new when it comes to the CCP.</p>
<p>Anyone backing them, is a loser for that. Because they support cheaters!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t award Cheaters! </p>
<p>Take back He Kexin&#8217;s gold medal, for cheating!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after getting the documents, IOC have confirmed that they are over 16!!

now what more can you ask for??

you people believe what you see on the internet is real? and not believe what is written on a birth certificate? haha..
losers!!

we need your appologies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after getting the documents, IOC have confirmed that they are over 16!!</p>
<p>now what more can you ask for??</p>
<p>you people believe what you see on the internet is real? and not believe what is written on a birth certificate? haha..<br />
losers!!</p>
<p>we need your appologies!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everyone treating this as if the Americans are some how showing poor sportsmanship and &quot;whining&quot; because the American team lost?  This issue was presented before the games even began by USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-08-03-1619905621_x.htm


A country that has a history of this offense (2000 Olympics) should be vetted more thoroughly; and the poor timing of the investigation lays squarely on the shoulders of the IOC who should have done all this before the games began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone treating this as if the Americans are some how showing poor sportsmanship and &#8220;whining&#8221; because the American team lost?  This issue was presented before the games even began by USA Today:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-08-03-1619905621_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-08-03-1619905621_x.htm</a></p>
<p>A country that has a history of this offense (2000 Olympics) should be vetted more thoroughly; and the poor timing of the investigation lays squarely on the shoulders of the IOC who should have done all this before the games began.</p>
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		<title>By: Falun Gong Rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falun Gong Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much evidence, even from the Communist Party&#039;s own Official Documents, stating He Kexin was born in 1994.

Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He’s specialty).

Yang’s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.”

We already have proof of the Chinese Communist Party faking Olympic athletes from before… 


China will never be FREE while under the evil Communist Party in China. This fake regime only hold power with it&#039;s lies, deception and threats of violence.

Nobody, not even Chinese in Taiwan want to be a part of the mainland&#039;s failures of the CCP.

It&#039;s time to strip away the gold medal for cheating... it&#039;s time to send a clear message to the CCP that we don&#039;t honor cheaters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much evidence, even from the Communist Party&#8217;s own Official Documents, stating He Kexin was born in 1994.</p>
<p>Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He’s specialty).</p>
<p>Yang’s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.”</p>
<p>We already have proof of the Chinese Communist Party faking Olympic athletes from before… </p>
<p>China will never be FREE while under the evil Communist Party in China. This fake regime only hold power with it&#8217;s lies, deception and threats of violence.</p>
<p>Nobody, not even Chinese in Taiwan want to be a part of the mainland&#8217;s failures of the CCP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to strip away the gold medal for cheating&#8230; it&#8217;s time to send a clear message to the CCP that we don&#8217;t honor cheaters!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3102</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No proof Ch1na is cheating IOC So you China basher shut OFF your mouth  

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hi4rzBxgMTM92A9p57rUG_iBvQXAD92N6E0G0

BEIJING (AP) — Despite persistent questions about the ages of several members of the Chinese women&#039;s gymnastics team that won the gold medal, the International Olympic Committee said Friday there is still no proof anyone cheated and believes the controversy will be &quot;put to rest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No proof Ch1na is cheating IOC So you China basher shut OFF your mouth  </p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hi4rzBxgMTM92A9p57rUG_iBvQXAD92N6E0G0" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hi4rzBxgMTM92A9p57rUG_iBvQXAD92N6E0G0</a></p>
<p>BEIJING (AP) — Despite persistent questions about the ages of several members of the Chinese women&#8217;s gymnastics team that won the gold medal, the International Olympic Committee said Friday there is still no proof anyone cheated and believes the controversy will be &#8220;put to rest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IOC To Chinese Deceivers: Let&#8217;s See Some (Real) IDs at Deceiver.com</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>IOC To Chinese Deceivers: Let&#8217;s See Some (Real) IDs at Deceiver.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] China Digital Times has a November 3, 2007 report from the Xinhua News Agency describing He Kexin as 13 years old. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] China Digital Times has a November 3, 2007 report from the Xinhua News Agency describing He Kexin as 13 years old. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: johndoe</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>johndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have  a solution to the problem. The U.S should take the troops out of iraq, and send them to communist China. one nuke and BAM problem solved. Citizens of china are so far lost thanks to their government, turning china into a desert and starting new seems ideal. i will vote yes to blowing the shit out of China anyday. No more communist hitler government = better world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have  a solution to the problem. The U.S should take the troops out of iraq, and send them to communist China. one nuke and BAM problem solved. Citizens of china are so far lost thanks to their government, turning china into a desert and starting new seems ideal. i will vote yes to blowing the shit out of China anyday. No more communist hitler government = better world</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese Gymnast Under Investigation. Its About Time! - Political Forum</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinese Gymnast Under Investigation. Its About Time! - Political Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    EXHIBIT C: A Chinese article written by state-run news agency Xinhua in 2007, and discovered China Digital Times Another Olympic Secret? How Old is He Kexin (???), Really? by the great China Digital Times China Digital Times that refers to He Kexin as 13 years old. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]    EXHIBIT C: A Chinese article written by state-run news agency Xinhua in 2007, and discovered China Digital Times Another Olympic Secret? How Old is He Kexin (???), Really? by the great China Digital Times China Digital Times that refers to He Kexin as 13 years old. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tang</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity that Chinese Olympic team used under-aged gymnasts, otherwise, it&#039;s a great success.  The government should punish those who tainted this event.  

Cheating is the dark side of human nature. People cheat to get ahead all the time.  But comparing doping with age-falsification, I would forgive age-falsification, that is, slap on the wrist.  Under-age has its advantage as well as disadvantage regarding performance.   It&#039;s a blemish on China&#039;s achievement; but it is by no means the source of China&#039;s success in this Olympic Games.  

FIG needs to find a way to enforce the age rule or just drop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity that Chinese Olympic team used under-aged gymnasts, otherwise, it&#8217;s a great success.  The government should punish those who tainted this event.  </p>
<p>Cheating is the dark side of human nature. People cheat to get ahead all the time.  But comparing doping with age-falsification, I would forgive age-falsification, that is, slap on the wrist.  Under-age has its advantage as well as disadvantage regarding performance.   It&#8217;s a blemish on China&#8217;s achievement; but it is by no means the source of China&#8217;s success in this Olympic Games.  </p>
<p>FIG needs to find a way to enforce the age rule or just drop it.</p>
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		<title>By: tang</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator>tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obviously, China is trying to get away with faking on a huge big scale!&quot;

I am not at all surprised with that statement considering Anna cited from EpochTimes.

EpochTimes is a mouthpiece of Falun Gong. It spins everything into hopeless shit. If you 100% believe what they said, then Chinese should just get out of that country and become refuge of the world. I am not saying what they said are 100% false.  It&#039;s just that they view everything from an extremely negative angle.  Well, if a person views everything in the world in a negative angle, he/she will become either a sociopath or suicidal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously, China is trying to get away with faking on a huge big scale!&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not at all surprised with that statement considering Anna cited from EpochTimes.</p>
<p>EpochTimes is a mouthpiece of Falun Gong. It spins everything into hopeless shit. If you 100% believe what they said, then Chinese should just get out of that country and become refuge of the world. I am not saying what they said are 100% false.  It&#8217;s just that they view everything from an extremely negative angle.  Well, if a person views everything in the world in a negative angle, he/she will become either a sociopath or suicidal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3079</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, tang, everybody doesn&#039;t cheat when it comes to the age rule, sorry. Age falsification has typically come from countries where there isn&#039;t an easy paper trail to follow. If the USSR said their girls were 15, could anyone really go to the Kremlin, pull the birth certificates and check? Is anyone going to head down to Pyongyang City Hall and check on Kim Gwang Suk&#039;s real age? Or course not. If France, South Africa or Australia tried to pull the same trick, there would be too much of a paper trail to get away with it. China has been getting away with it because the records, up until now, have not been readily accessible to the outside world. 

Yes, it is that bad. And it would be that bad no matter which country was doing it. Nobody&#039;s saying these girls aren&#039;t excellent gymnasts, but they shouldn&#039;t have to cheat to be there. They need to either take away the age limit or actually enforce it. And they need to actually punish countries and strip medals from those who violate the rules, instead of giving them a slap on the wrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, tang, everybody doesn&#8217;t cheat when it comes to the age rule, sorry. Age falsification has typically come from countries where there isn&#8217;t an easy paper trail to follow. If the USSR said their girls were 15, could anyone really go to the Kremlin, pull the birth certificates and check? Is anyone going to head down to Pyongyang City Hall and check on Kim Gwang Suk&#8217;s real age? Or course not. If France, South Africa or Australia tried to pull the same trick, there would be too much of a paper trail to get away with it. China has been getting away with it because the records, up until now, have not been readily accessible to the outside world. </p>
<p>Yes, it is that bad. And it would be that bad no matter which country was doing it. Nobody&#8217;s saying these girls aren&#8217;t excellent gymnasts, but they shouldn&#8217;t have to cheat to be there. They need to either take away the age limit or actually enforce it. And they need to actually punish countries and strip medals from those who violate the rules, instead of giving them a slap on the wrist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/08/another-olympic-secret-how-old-is-he-kexin/comment-page-2/#comment-3078</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yang Yun confesses on television about her age falsified for the Olympics competition!

&quot;China has a rich history of age falsification in Olympics competition, especially in gymnastics. At the 2000 Sydney Olympics, three years after the minimum age was raised to 16 in gymnastics, Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He&#039;s specialty). Yang&#039;s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.&quot;

Credit goes to: David Flumenbaum
www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

Just when Landor’s Ray Allen, who is living in China, discovered a phony building and wrote about his experience on his blog, noting that the “building” is actually “a computer illustration, printed on vinyl film, glued to panels and attached on the unfinished concrete skeleton of an eight-story building.”

His Blog here:
adage.com/olympics2008/post?article_id=130326

and here:
en.epochtimes.com/n2/china/beijing-fake-buildings-3128.html

Obviously, China is trying to get away with faking on a huge big scale!

North Korea was also barred from the 1993 world championships after FIG officials discovered that Kim Gwang Suk, the gold medalist on uneven bars in 1991, was listed as 15 for three years in a row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yang Yun confesses on television about her age falsified for the Olympics competition!</p>
<p>&#8220;China has a rich history of age falsification in Olympics competition, especially in gymnastics. At the 2000 Sydney Olympics, three years after the minimum age was raised to 16 in gymnastics, Chinese gymnast Yang Yun competed and won a bronze medal in the uneven bars (coincidentally this event is also He&#8217;s specialty). Yang&#8217;s passport said she was born on December 24, 1984 and turning 16 in the year of the Games, making her eligible. She later confessed in a television interview that she was only 14 at the time of the competition and that she and her coaches had lied about her age.&#8221;</p>
<p>Credit goes to: David Flumenbaum<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html</a></p>
<p>Just when Landor’s Ray Allen, who is living in China, discovered a phony building and wrote about his experience on his blog, noting that the “building” is actually “a computer illustration, printed on vinyl film, glued to panels and attached on the unfinished concrete skeleton of an eight-story building.”</p>
<p>His Blog here:<br />
adage.com/olympics2008/post?article_id=130326</p>
<p>and here:<br />
en.epochtimes.com/n2/china/beijing-fake-buildings-3128.html</p>
<p>Obviously, China is trying to get away with faking on a huge big scale!</p>
<p>North Korea was also barred from the 1993 world championships after FIG officials discovered that Kim Gwang Suk, the gold medalist on uneven bars in 1991, was listed as 15 for three years in a row.</p>
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