Tan, this is your opinion and it looks like it is drawn from different sources than where I have gotten my information.

I definitely think the party wants you to think that it is not colluding with the lower cadres and allowing the lower cadres to function as a mafia. Of course it wants you to think it is just a few bad people…. But, according to what I know, the head of the party willingly lets this kind of thing happen all the time because it needs those cadres to support the head of the party in lying to the people and keeping the people in fear etc. If the CCP enforced justice from the top, wouldn’t then the top need to follow justice? I don’t see it being prepared to do that.

CCP doesn’t advocate violence against people who speak up. There are people within CCP who beat up people. Those CCP members are extremists and often got punished if their bad acts got exposed to the public.

You can’t equate those extremists within CCP to CCP in general just as you can’t equate Muslim extremists to Muslim population in general.

Carryanne, you seem to generalize special cases to CCP in general, which is not a reasonable practice and will gain no sympathy from people who can think logically.

Carryanne, you need to read books about China, not just listen to the West media, which are always sensationalizing things to their own gain (advertising profit, etc). Or at least listen to NPR for some real good coverage and analysis about China.

You may think your dignity level is up, but is it not because China is under a veil of propaganda? I think it’s fake, it’s cowardly, superficial and unintelligent. You can’t even have a real conversation without coming up against the mindset such as this dude who is knowingly defending a total lie and covering up for a regime that enforces this lying.. Dignity? Half of the Chinese are taking advantage of each other and the other half are persecuted and robbed, nice.

Carryanne, you are wrong. CCP don’t randomly rob and beat people freely. Who told you that CCP is doing that?
I lived in China for 30 years before I came to the US and I was never been beaten by any CCP remember. If you are talking about some of the beating occurred to FalongGong cult members, it’s a totally differnt story. Firstly, CCP did persuade people not to practice FalongGong; CCP didn’t just go about and beat people who are practice Falonggong without first warning them. I don’t consider it beating people freely. FalongGong is banned in China and practicing FalongGong is illegal in China. You can get arrested in any country if you are doing something illegal and if you resist arrest you could get beaten; it’s not beating people freely. Whether Falonggong should be banned or not is another matter.

The majority of Chinese people have their dignity. Collectively Chinese people have more dignity than they had when they were called “the sick man of Asia”, when there was sign saying “Chinese and dog are not allowed to enter” in Shanghai before CCP liberated China.

In Canada, you have freedom of knowledge and a lot of freedom of expression, but guns are not legal…

And yes, America does have MAJOR social issues, not because of freedom, but I think it’s a lack of culture and values, social issues…

The crime rate will go sky high? You have no idea the amount of crime that is committed by the CCP and all of it’s lackies who rob at beat people freely, only it’s not considered crime, it’s considered state secrets and taboo issues which people are not allowed to care about.

I didn’t say the country should not be governed, but a good start to the rule of law is rationality and a universal legal basis. You can’t have that with CCP cause all they do is prosecute people who dare to expose corruption! It’s exactly backwards with that party, you need a real government that actually supports justice.

The opening has to be slow?? I think you’ve been had my friend. I think the Chinese people have been very tolerant and very gullible, just a little longer the CCP will rob you, just a little longer you will be in the dark…….When do you really think the CCP can let people have their dignity?

Big,

I can’t believe that.

I live in the US and never check out what the CCP says about anything. Everything I say is common sense.

Think in the shoes of the CCP, if the Chinese people are as well-informed as the Americans, what will happen? If Chinese people enjoy the same level of freedom as the Americans what will happen? For one thing, the crime rate will be sky high and people will start shooing each other whenever there is a serious dispute. In my view, Chinese people can’t enjoy the same level of freedom as the Americans before the rule of law is firmly established. Do you know what China looked like when people got a lot of freedom? They smoked Opium; they fought civil wars; they divided China into many sub-countries.

Again looking at those Chinese who lived in the Chinatown in the US 100 years ago, they enjoyed total freedom (almost). Right? What did they do? They formed triads; they smoked pot; they fought each other; they were looked down upon. In current China, too much freedom will result in uncontrollable waste, instability, chaos. Yes, in this case, it’s hard to understand why the propaganda department barred the distribution of Obama’s interview from a foreigner’s standpoint. But the opening progress has to go gradually, in a controlled manner. Chinese people do enjoy more freedom than they did 10 years ago, 20 years ago.

There are classified information in the USA too. So just think that the CCP has a much wider classification on information distribution. Is it good or bad to China or Chinese people? It’s hard to say. But things look as stupid as they are, there are some reasoning under them. Don’t just reject it because it doesn’t match your world view.

Bigger,

sorry to lecture, defame, and be biased against you (joke), but it seems you are educated from within the confines of the great firewall culture. It really does seem that way. Because of the existence of the 50 cent party who are paid to convince people online of the party line (which seems to be in line with yours), it is hard to take you seriously. If the CCP had not spent so much of the Chinese people’s’ resources on the effort to shape the Chinese peoples’ thinking in order to bolster itself in power, then people might take these opinions more seriously, but since the truth is not a priority under this regime, there are a mix of people paid to spread lies and people who believe them and spread them.

I am not against criticizing CCP. I want people to go a step further, criticizing Chinese people. After all, CCP is resting on the foundation of the Chinese people.

We all know some of the finger-pointers will do when they are promoted to some of the CCP positions; they will do exactly what some of the current CCP leaders do. So don’t single out CCP, go to the root of the problem, the ugliness of Chinese just as Mr. Bao Yang has pointed out in his famous book “the ugly Chinese”.

When it homes to Human Rights, The WHOLE WORLD has the right to point fingers, to judge, to comment, to raise awareness, to help the oppressed people.