<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" ><channel><title>China Digital Times (CDT) &#187; Tag: Orville Schell</title> <atom:link href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net</link> <description>Watching China Politics from Cyberspace</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:25:58 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>Chen Guangcheng Speaks from New York</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Samuel Wade</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Human Rights]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 2 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 3 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 4 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Top Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Chen Guangcheng]]></category> <category><![CDATA[diplomacy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Evan Osnos]]></category> <category><![CDATA[exiles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Fang Lizhi]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Global Times]]></category> <category><![CDATA[homicide]]></category> <category><![CDATA[human rights watch]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jerome cohen]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jiang Tianyong]]></category> <category><![CDATA[jonathan watts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liu binyan]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Liu Xiaobo]]></category> <category><![CDATA[new york city]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Nobel Prize]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[perry link]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sino-U.S. Relations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[South China Sea]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Teng Biao]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Tiananmen]]></category> <category><![CDATA[wang dan]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=136575</guid> <description><![CDATA[Chen Guangcheng, who arrived in New York on Saturday, greeted a cheering crowd outside New York University with a short speech. From NTDTV, via Shanghaiist:From the Associated Press:&#8220;I believe that no matter how difficult the environment nothing is impossible if you put your heart to it,&#8221; he told a cheering crowd at NYU shortly after arriving at Newark Liberty International Airport on Saturday evening. &#8220;We should link our arms to continue in the fight for the goodness in the world and to fight against injustice. So, I think that all people should apply themselves to this end to work for the common good worldwide ….&#8221; &#8220;For the past seven years, I have never had a day&#8217;s rest,&#8221; Chen said through a translator, &#8220;so I have come here for a bit of recuperation for body and in spirit.&#8221; Chen thanked the U.S. and Chinese governments, along with the embassies of Switzerland, Canada and France.Some Americans welcomed Chen not with cheers but, in comments collected by Offbeat China, with complaints about the burden he would place on the US taxpayer. The combined hourly rate of the several US officials who negotiated on his behalf is likely quite high; however,... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/chen-guangcheng/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Chen Guangcheng">Chen Guangcheng</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-arrives-in-new-york/">who arrived in New York on Saturday</a>, greeted a cheering crowd outside New York University with a short speech. From NTDTV, <a href="http://shanghaiist.com/2012/05/21/listen_chen_guangchengs_first_words.php">via Shanghaiist</a>:</p><p><iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IACjLis5LVc" width="592" height="431" frameborder="0"></iframe></p><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-activist-renews-call-fight-injustice-071647759.html"><strong>From the Associated Press</strong></a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I believe that no matter how difficult the environment nothing is impossible if you put your heart to it,&#8221; he told a cheering crowd at NYU shortly after arriving at Newark Liberty International Airport on Saturday evening.</p><p>&#8220;We should link our arms to continue in the fight for the goodness in the world and to fight against injustice. So, I think that all people should apply themselves to this end to work for the common good worldwide ….&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;For the past seven years, I have never had a day&#8217;s rest,&#8221; Chen said through a translator, &#8220;so I have come here for a bit of recuperation for body and in spirit.&#8221;</p><p>Chen thanked the U.S. and Chinese governments, along with the embassies of Switzerland, Canada and France.</p></blockquote><p>Some Americans welcomed Chen not with cheers but, in comments collected by Offbeat China, with <a href="http://offbeatchina.com/us-netizens-on-chen-guangchengs-arrival-in-nyc-why-is-he-here">complaints about the burden he would place on the US taxpayer</a>. The combined hourly rate of the several US officials who negotiated on his behalf is likely quite high; however, an NYU spokesman told The Wall Street Journal that, while he could not discuss financial specifics, &#8220;I don&#8217;t think it will come as a surprise to anyone that <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304019404577416051310772214.html">there have been significant offers of philanthropy regarding Mr. Chen</a>.&#8221;</p><p>With Chen and his family finally out of China, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/2012/05/19/gIQAxPtsbU_story.html"><strong>diplomats involved in the wrangling that secured their departure anonymously disclosed their account of the negotiations</strong></a> to The Washington Post.</p><blockquote><p>Over the course of the negotiations, the Chinese never put any proposals on the table. Their role was strictly reactive. At the end of each meeting, Cui would leave to report the latest terms to Chinese leaders. At times, he would enter the next meeting having come directly from the compound reserved for China’s highest leaders.</p><p>“We would put something forward, and were getting answers back almost immediately from the highest levels,” one senior administration official said. “I have never seen the Chinese government working this rapidly and efficiently.”</p><p>Meanwhile, the 12-hour time difference with Washington meant U.S. negotiators were getting little sleep, spending most of their night hours briefing the White House and State Department via secure lines at the embassy.</p><p>Negotiating with Chen could sometimes be as difficult as negotiating with Chinese officials. Conversations with him could be deeply moving. He often seemed fragile — a blind man with few possessions, sleeping in a small unadorned room in the barracks of the embassy. He talked of how much he missed his wife and worried about his children.</p><p>But he could pivot in an instant, displaying a steely shrewdness as he detailed the demands he wanted conveyed to Chinese officials.</p></blockquote><p>One Chinese scholar quoted by the South China Morning Post drew <a href="http://topics.scmp.com/news/china-news-watch/article/Day-of-mixed-emotions-for-Chen-supporters"><strong>a pessimistic conclusion from the episode</strong></a>:</p><blockquote><p>“It was an acceptable solution among the three parties after a series of negotiations between Beijing and Washington,” Professor Shi Yinhong , a Sino-US expert at Renmin University, said. “But I hope Chen’s incident is just an isolated case, not a trend.&#8221;</p><p>Shi said mainland scholars were more suspicions about US intentions towards China&#8217;s internal issues after Chen&#8217;s case. It came at a sensitive time, just before the Sino-US Strategic and Economic Dialogue.</p><p>“I think our leadership should remain vigilant … because the Chen case showed Washington doesn’t watch us only on our human rights,” Shi said.</p><p>“It also wants to affect our politics at the highest level.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>But <a href="http://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/chen-guangcheng-hopeful-breakthrough-or-political-eunuch"><strong>Orville Schell was among many who pointed to encouraging signs for the crucial US-China relationship</strong></a> in the two sides&#8217; conduct during the crisis.</p><blockquote><p>… China showed either a new maturity, or a much keener sense of realism, perhaps recognizing that relations with the U.S. are even more important than the fate of a single dissident, even if his flight is represents a sublime loss of face ….</p><p>In many ways, it is tempting to look back at the whole transaction as something of a hopeful breakthrough. With a minimum of posturing, the two countries did manage to work their way through a very difficult problem. Evidently, each saw sufficient common interest to find a mutually agreeable solution. That is a very hopeful sign.</p></blockquote><p>At The New Yorker, <a href="http://nyr.kr/KRDCSD"><strong>Evan Osnos saw similar grounds for cautious optimism</strong></a> in Chen&#8217;s expression of gratitude to the Chinese government for their &#8220;restraint and calm&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p>… It might not have been the first thanks on everyone’s lips. One could read that as a diplomatic comment, intended to protect those still in China, including his mother (whose house is reportedly being fenced off by local officials) and the fellow dissidents who helped him escape.</p><p>But it must also be read as the measure of a man with extraordinary presence of mind. He is, after all, correct: by the standards of official Chinese conduct in many other areas, its handling of Chen’s departure was restrained and calm. And that is one of the modestly encouraging facts to emerge from the final accounting of this whole complicated business: presented with diplomatic dynamite, neither China nor the United States succumbed to its worst instincts. The American handling of the affair was far better than the fevered early indictments suggested, and the Chinese have, so far, kept their promises to Chen and the United States. Those involved should take confidence from that ….</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://bloom.bg/L8dfas"><strong>And from Bloomberg</strong></a>:</p><blockquote><p>… With Chen now in New York, the two sides can return to nurturing a relationship that has progressed to a point that a case like his can be handled without a serious rupture, said Douglas Paal, vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.</p><p>“It reinforces the trend since late 2010 for the two leaderships to find a way to steer around sensitive subjects and promote pragmatic near-term relations,” Paal said ….</p><p>“I think this brings the matter to a close,” Bonnie Glaser, an analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said in an e-mail. “Both countries will focus on their domestic politics, upcoming elections in the U.S. and the 18th Party Congress in China later this year.”</p></blockquote><p>While many headlines hailed Chen&#8217;s arrival in the US as an ending, <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/05/20/153132092/where-chen-fits-in-a-history-of-dissidents">Perry Link told NPR that although &#8220;the tangle is finished for this particular case, it seems</a> … the problems of human rights in China are not problems of one or two people whose cases have to &#8216;be resolved,&#8217; quote-unquote. It&#8217;s a very deep, underlying long-term problem and we should view it that way.&#8221; As others stressed, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/20/chinese-activist-escapes-us-plane"><strong>the news brings no resolution for family and supporters still in China</strong></a>. From <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/jonathan-watts/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with jonathan watts">Jonathan Watts</a> at The Guardian:</p><blockquote><p>Nicholas Bequelin of <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/human-rights-watch/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with human rights watch">Human Rights Watch</a> said Chen’s departure was no cause for celebration as his family remained under pressure and there may be less incentive for the central government to investigate wrongdoing by the local authorities.</p><p>More importantly, Bequelin said, it raised questions about the wider environment for activists. “This is a reflection that there is no room for human rights defenders in China. We don’t know if this will turn into a temporary stay or exile, but in either case it begs the questions why someone like Chen Guangcheng cannot freely operate in China. What is it that stops the authorities from tolerating or even embracing someone like Chen?”</p></blockquote><p>Bequelin&#8217;s comments were echoed, perhaps surprisingly, in a weibo post by Global Times editor-in-chief, Hu Xijin, quoted by Didi Kirsten Tatlow at The New York Times: “Today, Chen and his family have already taken an American airplane to New York. <a href="http://nyti.ms/K3cLBJ">It makes people feel regret and sigh that in China today this is the only way to solve his problem</a>.” His wistfulness was not matched by an editorial in his paper, which took a dismissive tone: &#8220;<a href="http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/710429/Chen-case-is-nothing-but-a-colorful-bubble.aspx">The drama around Chen is a colorful bubble. Nothing is left when it bursts</a>.&#8221; Otherwise, <a href="http://nyti.ms/K3cLBJ">as Tatlow wrote</a>, Chinese media were largely silent about his departure, focusing instead on athletic victories, the <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/south-china-sea/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with South China Sea">South China Sea</a>, or <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/beijing-to-clean-up-illegal-foreigners/">the ongoing clean-up of &#8216;foreign trash&#8217;</a>. The famously independent Caixin did publish a report on Chen&#8217;s arrival in New York, but <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/1/106378980111121757454/posts/SzYmLCEWya4">William Farris noted on Google+ that this was quickly taken down</a>.</p><p>While some expressed reservations or disappointment, there was <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/20/chen-guangcheng-family-at-risk-china 20"><strong>broad approval of Chen&#8217;s decision to leave from activists remaining in China</strong></a>. The Guardian&#8217;s Jonathan Watts spoke to several:</p><blockquote><p>He Peirong – who played a key role in the escape by driving Chen from Shandong to Beijing – said she sympathised, even though the reverberations of Chen&#8217;s flight remain unclear. &#8220;I support any decision made by Chen, but it&#8217;s too early to say whether his departure is a good thing for China&#8217;s rights movement. Things are not settled. Problems are not solved. His family is still in China. The people who helped him escape are still in China.&#8221;</p><p>He – who was detained for several days after Chen&#8217;s escape and remains under surveillance – spoke of her admiration for Chen.</p><p>&#8220;He has done more than you could expect from any individual … Although he has experienced so much injustice and so many threats, he sticks to his beliefs. He is like a piece of jade: always smooth and warm.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Chen&#8217;s lawyer Liu Weiguo said similarly that, despite his reservations about the outcome, “<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/20/chinese-activist-escapes-us-plane">for the Chinese rights movement he has done more than enough</a>. We can’t ask him to do any more. Now he needs time to rest.” <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/teng-biao/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Teng Biao">Teng Biao</a>, who precipitated the second phase of the diplomatic crisis by persuading Chen to abandon the idea of remaining in China, stood by his earlier position, telling Watts that “<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/20/chinese-activist-escapes-us-plane">[Chen's] safety and freedom are the priority</a>. Whether this is a good thing for the rights movement is secondary now.”</p><p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/20/us-china-dissident-supporters-idUSBRE84J02L20120520"><strong>None seemed to entertain any hope that the concessions granted to Chen and his family were signs of a wider easing</strong></a>. From Reuters:</p><blockquote><p>“There won’t be any big changes for us now that Chen Guangcheng has left. There are still many reasons to keep up control and stability preservation,” <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/jiang-tianyong/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Jiang Tianyong">Jiang Tianyong</a>, a Beijing human rights lawyer, said in a telephone interview, referring to the Communist Party’s terms for controlling dissidents.</p><p>Jiang, a long-time campaigner for Chen’s freedom, said he remained under house arrest, despite police officers’ earlier promises that he would be released after Chen left.</p><p>“I still don’t know when they’re going to let up,” Jiang said of the police restrictions. “This is no way forward, but especially with the 18th party congress, the high pressure will probably only grow, not decrease.”</p></blockquote><p>As in recent days, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304019404577416051310772214.html"><strong>the most urgent concern was for Chen Kegui</strong></a>, Chen&#8217;s nephew, who faces charges of intentional <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/homicide/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with homicide">homicide</a> for attacking intruders into his father&#8217;s home when Chen Guangcheng&#8217;s escape was first discovered. From The Wall Street Journal:</p><blockquote><p>Lawyers who have taken up the case of Mr. Chen&#8217;s nephew said it wasn&#8217;t clear how Mr. Chen&#8217;s departure would affect the outcome.</p><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to say, since China never plays its cards in the proper order,&#8221; said Chen Wuquan, a Guangzhou-based lawyer whose license was revoked by local authorities just as he was preparing to travel to meet with Chen Kegui this month.</p><p>&#8220;I think [the authorities] will be more strict in dealing with Chen Kegui,&#8221; said Liang Xiaojun, another of the lawyers involved in the case. &#8220;They won&#8217;t care about the international viewpoint.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>While a number of lawyers volunteered to defend Chen Kegui, his family&#8217;s eventual choice of Ding Qikui and Si Weijiang was rejected by local officials, supposedly at his own request. Chen Guangcheng told The Financial Times that similar obstruction had occurred before his own sentencing to four years in prison in 2006. &#8220;<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c4fa5df4-a263-11e1-a605-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1vS0y7CEH">That this naked, shameless abuse can still happen again six years later …</a>,&#8221; he said, adding that he suspected Chen Kegui had been tortured to make him accept a public defender in place of the lawyers appointed by his family.</p><p>The longer term fear arising from Chen Guangcheng&#8217;s departure is that he may, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/wuer-kaixi-chinas-most-unwanted/">like others before him</a>, be barred from re-entering China and find himself trapped and increasingly powerless abroad. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/opinion/mr-chen-welcome-to-america.html?_r=2&amp;ref=opinion">Wang Dan argued in a recent New York Times op-ed</a>, and <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304019404577416051310772214.html">Human Rights Watch&#8217;s Phelim Kine told The Wall Street Journal on Saturday</a>, that the Internet had changed the nature of political exile. Nevertheless, <a href="http://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/chen-guangcheng-hopeful-breakthrough-or-political-eunuch"><strong>worry about Beijing&#8217;s enthusiasm for exporting dissent muted Orville Schell&#8217;s optimism</strong></a> about the state of Sino-US relations. From Asia Society:</p><blockquote><p>The tactic of facilitating the most prominent critics of the Party to go into exile was something like the outsourcing of the manufacture process of a very polluting and unwelcomed home-based industry. There might initially be some complaints from dispossessed workers, but ultimately all, or almost all, would be forgotten, and the ongoing problem, if there were one, would be someone else’s.</p><p>With dissidents like <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/fang-lizhi/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Fang Lizhi">Fang Lizhi</a> and Wei Jingsheng, Chinese officials learned that interest in the opinions of such activists and concern for their well-being quickly waned once they were abroad. The political oblivion usually followed rather rapidly. Moreover, a short while after they left China, these once-celebrated voices seemed to lose the requisite standing necessary to being taken seriously as authorities on Chinese affairs. The process of being exiled effectively turned them into political eunuchs. Far better, so the Chinese leadership seemed to have concluded, to endure a few days of high intensity bad press as a prelude to watching a dissident parked harmlessly and unheard in Queens, sink out of site. The alternative was to have someone like <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/liu-xiaobo/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Liu Xiaobo">Liu Xiaobo</a> stuck in a Chinese jail writing damning essays and winning Nobel Prizes. (At least so far, neither Liu nor the Chinese Government has shown any inclination to engage in such export tactics in his case.)</p></blockquote><p>In his interview with NPR, <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/05/20/153132092/where-chen-fits-in-a-history-of-dissidents"><strong>Perry Link also described the history of this trend</strong></a>:</p><blockquote><p>The record of dissidents leaving China has changed pretty dramatically over the last 23 years, since the Tiananmen Massacre. At the time, the Chinese government was angry to see people like Liu Binyan and Fang Lizhi and Fu Xiao Jun and many, many others who fled and congregated at the time at Princeton University, where I was teaching. There were about 25 of them. And the government didn&#8217;t like that because they wanted them to come back. They were wanted and so on.</p><p>By now, I think we should say that the Chinese government&#8217;s policy has changed about 180 degrees. Now, they&#8217;re quite happy to see what they view as troublemakers like Chen Guangcheng be exiled, because the record over the last two decades of people who&#8217;ve come out has been that their influence inside China dramatically declines, and they feel frustrated. And their followers back in China feel frustrated.</p><p>So this exit of Chen Guangcheng is in one sense a win-win situation, because he and his family are now safe. And back in China they weren&#8217;t and didn&#8217;t feel that they were safe. And the Chinese government wins because it gets rid of a thorn in its side.</p></blockquote><p>Link continued to describe Chen&#8217;s rural background, a potent contrast with that of the sterotypical Chinese urban-intellectual dissident. <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/20/us-china-dissident-profile-idUSBRE84J00Z20120520"><strong>Sui-Lee Wee and Terril Yue Jones explore similar ground in a profile at Reuters</strong></a>:</p><blockquote><p>“It was his own feelings of discrimination from the time he was a kid that really got him interested in law,” said Jerome Cohen, a China law expert and professor at New York University’s law school. Cohen has become a supporter and confidante of Chen.</p><p>“He felt the community leaders, instead of making blind people an object of sympathy, treated them as an unneeded burden on the community, people who didn’t pull their weight, people who claimed they shouldn’t pay tax like able-bodied farmers.</p><p>“That was what started him off ….&#8221;</p><p>“My first impression was I could be talking to a Chinese equivalent of Gandhi,” Cohen recalled. “This is a man with a quiet charisma, considerable intelligence, very articulate and a steely determination.”</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Samuel Wade for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2012. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/#comments">One comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/&title=Chen Guangcheng Speaks from New York">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/chen-guangcheng/" rel="tag">Chen Guangcheng</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/diplomacy/" rel="tag">diplomacy</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/evan-osnos/" rel="tag">Evan Osnos</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/exiles/" rel="tag">exiles</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/fang-lizhi/" rel="tag">Fang Lizhi</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/global-times/" rel="tag">Global Times</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/homicide/" rel="tag">homicide</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/human-rights-watch/" rel="tag">human rights watch</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/jerome-cohen/" rel="tag">Jerome cohen</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/jiang-tianyong/" rel="tag">Jiang Tianyong</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/jonathan-watts/" rel="tag">jonathan watts</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/liu-binyan/" rel="tag">liu binyan</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/liu-xiaobo/" rel="tag">Liu Xiaobo</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/new-york-city/" rel="tag">new york city</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/nobel-prize/" rel="tag">Nobel Prize</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/perry-link/" rel="tag">perry link</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sino-u-s-relations/" rel="tag">Sino-U.S. Relations</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/south-china-sea/" rel="tag">South China Sea</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/teng-biao/" rel="tag">Teng Biao</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/tiananmen/" rel="tag">Tiananmen</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/wang-dan/" rel="tag">wang dan</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/05/chen-guangcheng-speaks-from-new-york/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>When China and the West Meet, Who Bows Deeper?</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Culture & the Arts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 2 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 3 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Level 4 Article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[diplomacy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[U.S. relations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[yo-yo ma]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=131708</guid> <description><![CDATA[in the Atlantic, Orville Schell uses a recent performance in Beijing by cellist Yo-Yo Ma and actress Meryl Streep to illustrate a subtle power play between China and the U.S. which has persisted for hundreds of years and which he believes needs to change in order to the bilateral relationship to progress and benefit the world. After their Beijing performance concluded, Streep and Ma each bowed to the other in &#8220;unexpected ballet of competitive modesty&#8221;:From here on, as China&#8217;s wealth and power increases, its national challenge will be to start letting itself feel sufficiently reinstated in the congress of great nations that it does not need to wallow in narratives of victimization, or be so militant about grasping symbolic demonstrations of its equality or superiority. The highest stage of evolution for any truly great power is to reach that point where it is possible to transcend the notion of both inferior and superior, the better to cultivate a self-confidence that leads to modesty. This is a lot to ask of China, or any country. Even the United States, the strongest nation on the globe today, has only rarely demonstrated such national maturity. What made such exemplars out of Meryl... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the Atlantic, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a> uses <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/252834/?single_page=true"><strong>a recent performance in Beijing by cellist Yo-Yo Ma and actress Meryl Streep to illustrate a subtle power play between China and the U.S.</strong></a> which has persisted for hundreds of years and which he believes needs to change in order to the bilateral relationship to progress and benefit the world. After their Beijing performance concluded, Streep and Ma each bowed to the other in &#8220;unexpected ballet of competitive modesty&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p> From here on, as China&#8217;s wealth and power increases, its national challenge will be to start letting itself feel sufficiently reinstated in the congress of great nations that it does not need to wallow in narratives of victimization, or be so militant about grasping symbolic demonstrations of its equality or superiority. The highest stage of evolution for any truly great power is to reach that point where it is possible to transcend the notion of both inferior and superior, the better to cultivate a self-confidence that leads to modesty. This is a lot to ask of China, or any country. Even the United States, the strongest nation on the globe today, has only rarely demonstrated such national maturity.</p><p>What made such exemplars out of Meryl Streep and <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/yo-yo-ma/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with yo-yo ma">Yo-Yo Ma</a> on that Beijing stage &#8212; which fittingly lies just across the street from the Forbidden City, where the Qianlong Emperor reigned over 200 years ago &#8212; was their rare deportment toward each other. Instead of one seeking to stand taller than the other or to bolster one ego at the expense of the other, each tried to deflect acclaim from themselves to the other in what ended up being an almost slapstick comedy of competitive humility. Theirs was a stellar example of magnanimity born of accomplishment and confidence. They helped create a wonderful night of artistry, but more important they gave a subtle but powerful demonstration for Chinese and Americans alike of the level to which collaboration built on true equality can sometimes rise.</p><p>While a great nation must, of course, seek its own self-interest, it does not need to do so by remaining selfishly unmindful of the interests and accomplishments of other nations. True greatness does not demand endless adoration, but thrives by sometimes deflecting acclaim to others. It was this element that was so heartwarmingly evident in Yo-Yo Ma and Meryl Streep&#8217;s joint performance &#8212; and, two centuries before, was so missing from Lord Macartney&#8217;s visit to the Qianlong Emperor. Alas, it is still all too often missing from U.S.-China relations today.</p></blockquote><p>Watch a video of Streep and Ma&#8217;s performance, including their bows at the end:<br /> <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/35600074?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/35600074">A Poem Reading with Meryl Streep and Cello with Yo-Yo Ma</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/uschinacenter">Center on US-China Relations</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2012. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/#comments">2 comments</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/&title=When China and the West Meet, Who Bows Deeper?">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/diplomacy/" rel="tag">diplomacy</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/us-relations/" rel="tag">U.S. relations</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/yo-yo-ma/" rel="tag">yo-yo ma</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2012/02/when-a-rising-china-and-a-humbled-west-meet-who-bows-deeper/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>2</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>To Get Rich Is Apocryphal</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:08:18 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Samuel Wade</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Culture & the Arts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Beijing University]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Deng Xiaoping]]></category> <category><![CDATA[economic reforms]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sarah Palin]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=121631</guid> <description><![CDATA[Christian Science Monitor joins in the recent frenzy of debunking misattributed quotations with ten political misquotes, from Sarah Palin&#8217;s &#8220;I can see Russia from my house&#8221; to John F Kennedy&#8217;s &#8220;I am a jelly doughnut.&#8221; Among them is a contribution from Deng Xiaoping:Western journalists in search of a shorthand for China&#8217;s dramatic economic turnaround will almost invariably trot this one out. But, oddly enough, it doesn&#8217;t show up much in Chinese publications, and nobody has managed to find the original source where Deng allegedly said it. The phrase was popularized by the writer Orville Schell in his 1984 book &#8220;To Get Rich Is Glorious: China in the &#8217;80s.&#8221; But Schell never actually attributed the words to Deng, telling the L.A. Times&#8217;s Evelyn Iritani in 2004 that it merely &#8220;grew out of the zeitgeist&#8221; of China&#8217;s economic reforms. That said, it&#8217;s almost impossible to verify or debunk any quotation attributed to a dead Chinese leader, as China&#8217;s Communist Party is extraordinarily adept at revising history so that it meets the political needs of the present.From the cited L.A. Times article:Although many scholars and journalists &#8212; including China expert Orville Schell and veteran CBS correspondent Mike Wallace &#8212; helped... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian Science Monitor joins in <a href="http://kottke.org/11/05/giving-our-feelings-a-name">the recent frenzy of debunking misattributed quotations</a> with ten political misquotes, from <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sarah-palin/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Sarah Palin">Sarah Palin</a>&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/I-can-see-Russia-from-my-house!-Sarah-Palin">I can see Russia from my house</a>&#8221; to John F Kennedy&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/I-am-a-jelly-doughnut!-John-F.-Kennedy">I am a jelly doughnut</a>.&#8221; Among them is <strong><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/To-get-rich-is-glorious.-Deng-Xiaoping">a contribution from Deng Xiaoping</a></strong>:</p><blockquote><p>Western journalists in search of a shorthand for China&#8217;s dramatic economic turnaround will almost invariably trot this one out. But, oddly enough, it doesn&#8217;t show up much in Chinese publications, and nobody has managed to find the original source where Deng allegedly said it.</p><p>The phrase was popularized by the writer <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a> in his 1984 book &#8220;To Get Rich Is Glorious: China in the &#8217;80s.&#8221; But Schell never actually attributed the words to Deng, telling the L.A. Times&#8217;s Evelyn Iritani in 2004 that it merely &#8220;grew out of the zeitgeist&#8221; of China&#8217;s <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/economic-reforms/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with economic reforms">economic reforms</a>.</p><p>That said, it&#8217;s almost impossible to verify or debunk any quotation attributed to a dead Chinese leader, as China&#8217;s Communist Party is extraordinarily adept at revising history so that it meets the political needs of the present.</p></blockquote><p>From <strong><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/print/2004/sep/09/business/fi-deng9">the cited L.A. Times article</a></strong>:</p><blockquote><p>Although many scholars and journalists &#8212; including China expert Orville Schell and veteran CBS correspondent Mike Wallace &#8212; helped immortalize Deng&#8217;s phrase, he never actually said, sung or muttered it, many scholars and other experts say.</p><p>&#8220;As far as I can see, the use of the slogan &#8230; has been entirely in foreign reports,&#8221; says Bai Xueqiu, researcher at <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/beijing-university/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Beijing University">Beijing University</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/deng-xiaoping/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Deng Xiaoping">Deng Xiaoping</a> Theory Research Institute &#8230;.</p><p>Experts point to a confluence of issues &#8212; including the secrecy surrounding the Chinese government and its leaders, linguistic confusion and media hype &#8212; that helped put those words rightly or wrongly into Deng&#8217;s mouth.</p><p>Once the exhortation was picked up by the popular press and posted on the Internet, it created a history of its own.</p><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s sort of like a computer virus &#8212; once these things get out in the public consciousness, the associations are made and it&#8217;s very hard to disentangle them,&#8221; says Schell, dean of the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism.</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Samuel Wade for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2011. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/&title=To Get Rich Is Apocryphal">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/beijing-university/" rel="tag">Beijing University</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/deng-xiaoping/" rel="tag">Deng Xiaoping</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/economic-reforms/" rel="tag">economic reforms</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sarah-palin/" rel="tag">Sarah Palin</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2011/06/to-get-rich-is-apocryphal/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Orville Schell: China: Defending its Core Interest in the World – Part I</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:35:57 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Confucianism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[U.S. relations]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=56795</guid> <description><![CDATA[Yale Global has posted the first in a two-part series, by Orville Schell, Arthur Ross Director of the Asia Society&#8217;s Center on US China Relations, looking at U.S.-China relations:China has shown increasing intransigence towards the world in the defense of what it considers its core interest. This two-part series analyzes how China’s hard line policy may not have helped its best interest. Recent developments in the US-China relationship – both in politics, with the rocky start between presidents Barack Obama and Hu Jintao, and in business with Google’s partial retreat from the Chinese market are examples of this tough approach. In the first article, China historian Orville Schell notes that the Obama administration has taken heat from critics on the right and left for extending a series of friendly gestures to the nation with little to show in the way of tangible policy initiatives. If anything, some US observers noted that China became more aggressive with its demands. Some patience may be in order, as the US and China adjust to roles as collaborators rather than mere competitors and China rediscovers valuable lessons from its tradition. Schell explains that the notion of reciprocity, or “shu,” is a fundamental tenet... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/china-defending-its-core-interest-world-%E2%80%93-part-i">Yale Global has posted</a> the first in a two-part series, by <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a>, Arthur Ross Director of the Asia Society&#8217;s Center on US China Relations, looking at U.S.-China relations:</p><blockquote><p> China has shown increasing intransigence towards the world in the defense of what it considers its core interest. This two-part series analyzes how China’s hard line policy may not have helped its best interest. Recent developments in the US-China relationship – both in politics, with the rocky start between presidents Barack Obama and Hu Jintao, and in business with Google’s partial retreat from the Chinese market are examples of this tough approach. In the first article, China historian Orville Schell notes that the Obama administration has taken heat from critics on the right and left for extending a series of friendly gestures to the nation with little to show in the way of tangible policy initiatives. If anything, some US observers noted that China became more aggressive with its demands. Some patience may be in order, as the US and China adjust to roles as collaborators rather than mere competitors and China rediscovers valuable lessons from its tradition. Schell explains that the notion of reciprocity, or “shu,” is a fundamental tenet of Confucian teachings. Rather than mark weakness, Schell contends that concessions and good intentions can serve as a catalyst to encourage reciprocity and move negotiations and relationships toward a higher level in resolving global problems, thus strengthening both nations.</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2010. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/&title=Orville Schell: China: Defending its Core Interest in the World – Part I">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/confucianism/" rel="tag">Confucianism</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/us-relations/" rel="tag">U.S. relations</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/04/orville-schell-china-defending-its-core-interest-in-the-world-%e2%80%93-part-i/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Orville Schell: In China vs Google, Google Resembles a Country</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:08:39 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Economy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Information Revolution]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sci-Tech]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Society]]></category> <category><![CDATA[foreign IT companies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Googlecn]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=50819</guid> <description><![CDATA[Thomas Crampton interviewed Orville Schell, Director of the Asia Society&#8217;s Center on US China Relations, at the World Economic Forum in Davos about Google in China:One key issue in the confrontation, Schell said, is that Google has become more like a nation than a company. By this he means that not only is Google closely connected to the Obama administration, but the company has a high resonance in the western world. Only a company like Google could take such a stance against China, he said in this video recorded at Davos.<hr /> <small>© Sophie Beach for China Digital Times (CDT), 2010. &#124; Permalink &#124; No comment &#124; Add to del.icio.usPost tags: foreign IT companies, Googlecn, Orville Schell Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall </small>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/170204"><strong>Thomas Crampton interviewed</strong> </a><a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a>, Director of the Asia Society&#8217;s Center on US China Relations, at the World Economic Forum in Davos about Google in China:</p><blockquote><p> One key issue in the confrontation, Schell said, is that Google has become more like a nation than a company. By this he means that not only is Google closely connected to the Obama administration, but the company has a high resonance in the western world. Only a company like Google could take such a stance against China, he said in this video recorded at Davos.</p><p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WqrzfFzINxs&#038;color1=0xb1b1b1&#038;color2=0xcfcfcf&#038;hl=en_US&#038;feature=player_embedded&#038;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WqrzfFzINxs&#038;color1=0xb1b1b1&#038;color2=0xcfcfcf&#038;hl=en_US&#038;feature=player_embedded&#038;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2010. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/&title=Orville Schell: In China vs Google, Google Resembles a Country">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/foreign-it-companies/" rel="tag">foreign IT companies</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/googlecn/" rel="tag">Googlecn</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/01/orville-schell-in-china-vs-google-google-resembles-a-country/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Perspectives on China</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Society]]></category> <category><![CDATA[James Fallows]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rachel dewoskin]]></category> <category><![CDATA[views of China]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=47979</guid> <description><![CDATA[The Folger Shakespeare Library in Washington recently held a talk on China, featuring Orville Schell, James Fallows and Rachel DeWoskin, which is now available online:Atlantic correspondent James Fallows, scholar and journalist Orville Schell, and author and actress Rachel DeWoskin, who chronicled Chinese and American perceptions of each other in her acclaimed memoir Foreign Babes in Beijing, share their insightful, thought-provoking, and often humorous experiences in an informal conversation moderated by CBS News anchor Sam Litzinger.<hr /> <small>© Sophie Beach for China Digital Times (CDT), 2009. &#124; Permalink &#124; One comment &#124; Add to del.icio.usPost tags: James Fallows, Orville Schell, rachel dewoskin, views of China Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall </small>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Folger Shakespeare Library in Washington recently held a talk on China, featuring <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/james-fallows/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with James Fallows">James Fallows</a> and <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/rachel-dewoskin/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with rachel dewoskin">Rachel DeWoskin</a>, which is now <a href="http://www.folger.edu/Content/Whats-On/Digital-Folger/Perspectives-on-China.cfm">available online</a>:</p><blockquote><p> Atlantic correspondent James Fallows, scholar and journalist Orville Schell, and author and actress Rachel DeWoskin, who chronicled Chinese and American perceptions of each other in her acclaimed memoir Foreign Babes in Beijing, share their insightful, thought-provoking, and often humorous experiences in an informal conversation moderated by CBS News anchor Sam Litzinger.</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2009. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/#comments">One comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/&title=Perspectives on China">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/james-fallows/" rel="tag">James Fallows</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/rachel-dewoskin/" rel="tag">rachel dewoskin</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/views-of-china/" rel="tag">views of China</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/perspectives-on-china/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>1</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Orville Schell: China&#8217;s Boom: The Dark Side in Photos</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Culture & the Arts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Economy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Environment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[air pollution]]></category> <category><![CDATA[coal mines]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lu Guang]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[photography]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=46925</guid> <description><![CDATA[Orville Schell writes about the work of award-winning photographer Lu Guang on the New York Review of Books blog:Everything you see in Lu’s photographs—whether desolate mines, gritty plants spewing out toxic smoke, grimy miners, poisoned bodies of water or tundras of trash—grows out of China’s use of coal. In fact, 80 percent of China’s electricity comes from coal (in contrast to about 50 percent for the US). And electrical power has provided the Chinese economy with the energy it needs to maintain 10 percent growth rates for more than a decade. In other words, coal has been China’s bounty and salvation, enabling tens of millions of people to rise up from grinding poverty, and allowing the government to build a whole new system of ports, highways, airports, railroads, bridges, buildings, and tunnels. It has also helped to create a prosperous middle class; and contributed to China’s emergence as a world power. However, China’s reliance on coal has been polluting the country’s air and water, depleting its resource base and despoiling its landscape in ways that are difficult to imagine without actually visiting the Chinese countryside. Yet the photography of Lu Guang gives us a glimpse of this landscape, reminding... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.nybooks.com/post/227206151/chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos#comment-21477012"><strong>Orville Schell writes</strong></a> about the work of <a href="http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/content_display/photo-news/photojournalism/e3ib70ace379b80f09aae7091715c4bef8a">award-winning</a> photographer <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/lu-guang/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Lu Guang">Lu Guang</a> on the New York Review of Books blog:</p><blockquote><p><a href="http://cdt.chinadigitaltime.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/images1.jpg"><img src="http://cdt.chinadigitaltime.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/images1.jpg" alt="images" title="images" width="500" height="333" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-46926" /></a><br /> Everything you see in Lu’s photographs—whether desolate mines, gritty plants spewing out toxic smoke, grimy miners, poisoned bodies of water or tundras of trash—grows out of China’s use of coal. In fact, 80 percent of China’s electricity comes from coal (in contrast to about 50 percent for the US). And electrical power has provided the Chinese economy with the energy it needs to maintain 10 percent growth rates for more than a decade.</p><p>In other words, coal has been China’s bounty and salvation, enabling tens of millions of people to rise up from grinding poverty, and allowing the government to build a whole new system of ports, highways, airports, railroads, bridges, buildings, and tunnels. It has also helped to create a prosperous middle class; and contributed to China’s emergence as a world power.</p><p>However, China’s reliance on coal has been polluting the country’s air and water, depleting its resource base and despoiling its landscape in ways that are difficult to imagine without actually visiting the Chinese countryside. Yet the <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/photography/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with photography">photography</a> of Lu Guang gives us a glimpse of this landscape, reminding us that these scenes of devastation are not isolated phenomena. They are ubiquitous. Above all, it also reminds us that there is a steep cost to such rapacious and high-speed development, something the Chinese government has started to understand and to try and remedy.</p></blockquote><p>See more of Lu&#8217;s work and read translated comments from Chinese netizens <a href="http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/">via ChinaHush</a>.</p><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2009. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/#comments">2 comments</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/&title=Orville Schell: China&#8217;s Boom: The Dark Side in Photos">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/air-pollution/" rel="tag">air pollution</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/coal-mines/" rel="tag">coal mines</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/lu-guang/" rel="tag">Lu Guang</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/photography/" rel="tag">photography</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/11/orville-schell-chinas-boom-the-dark-side-in-photos/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>2</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Orville Schell: China Reluctant to Lead</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:09:09 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[China's rise]]></category> <category><![CDATA[financial crisis 2009]]></category> <category><![CDATA[globalization]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=35697</guid> <description><![CDATA[For Yale Global, Orville Schell writes about China&#8217;s role in a global solution to the current economic meltdown:As US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton emphasized during her first trip overseas, the US has great expectations for China&#8217;s leadership and help on fixing the economy, and reducing climate change. Following the model of Richard Nixon in the 1970s, who sought to make common cause against the Soviet threat, Clinton emphasized common challenges for the two nations, playing down any differences over trade and human rights. Not so long ago, US and Chinese leaders insisted the other bears a greater share of responsibility for climate change and therefore should be the first to make sacrifice. Now, the Obama-Clinton team acknowledges that the US, as a developed country, contributed to high levels of emissions throughout history and seeks a partnership with China, currently the biggest emitter of green house gases. Orville Schell, director for US-China relations at the Asia Society, points out that, despite China&#8217;s tremendous success in overcoming poverty and pursuing development over the last two decades, the country still lags in self-confidence. &#8220;The truth is that old psychological mindsets and ways of relating to the world have changed far slower... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=12074">For Yale Global</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a> writes about China&#8217;s role in a global solution to the current economic meltdown:</p><blockquote><p> As US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton emphasized during her first trip overseas, the US has great expectations for China&#8217;s leadership and help on fixing the economy, and reducing climate change. Following the model of Richard Nixon in the 1970s, who sought to make common cause against the Soviet threat, Clinton emphasized common challenges for the two nations, playing down any differences over trade and human rights. Not so long ago, US and Chinese leaders insisted the other bears a greater share of responsibility for climate change and therefore should be the first to make sacrifice. Now, the Obama-Clinton team acknowledges that the US, as a developed country, contributed to high levels of emissions throughout history and seeks a partnership with China, currently the biggest emitter of green house gases. Orville Schell, director for <a href="http://www.asiasource.org/china.cfm">US-China relations at the Asia Society</a>, points out that, despite China&#8217;s tremendous success in overcoming poverty and pursuing development over the last two decades, the country still lags in self-confidence. &#8220;The truth is that old psychological mindsets and ways of relating to the world have changed far slower than the urban landscape might suggest, leaving China&#8217;s self-confidence lagging behind its actual achievements,&#8221; explains Schell, adding that some of China&#8217;s reluctance to take leadership may be part of a strategy aimed at not alarming neighboring countries. Solutions to major global problems require thoughtful ideas from all nations, as well as the ability to listen and collaborate on all levels. Compromise can be the first step on the leadership path. However, if China continues to shirk its global responsibility, the US will be left to act alone.</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2009. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/&title=Orville Schell: China Reluctant to Lead">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/chinas-rise/" rel="tag">China's rise</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/financial-crisis-2009/" rel="tag">financial crisis 2009</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/globalization/" rel="tag">globalization</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/orville-schell-china-reluctant-to-lead/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>China: Humiliation &amp; the Olympics</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:03:46 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Xiao Qiang</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Culture & the Arts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dark Matter]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/?p=22132</guid> <description><![CDATA[Author Orville Schell writes in the New York Review of Books: Dark Matter may appear to be simply another film about a mass shooting spree at an American campus, albeit one with a Chinese twist. When Liu Xing arrives at the University of Iowa from Beijing, he optimistically proclaims himself so lucky to come to America, Meiguo, the Beautiful Country. May we all find a dream here!&#8230; I&#8217;m going to solve the Dark Matter problem, win the Nobel Prize, and marry a blue-eyed American girl! But he gradually becomes persuaded that his professors are conspiring to delay his degree and deny him his rightful recognition as a scholar. His growing paranoia is only heightened when his Ph.D. orals committee refuses to sign off on his thesis until he redoes some of his computations, making it impossible for him to win the top dissertation prize he feels he deserves. By the end of the film, his acute sense of humiliation has led to a psychotic state, and in a fit of murderous rage he kills the professors he once idealized. But what gives Dark Matter wider significance is the filmmakers&#8217; use of the Iowa incident to explore—indirectly—some important psychological dynamics between... <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/" class="read_more">Read more</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a> <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21715">writes in the New York Review of Books</a>:</p><blockquote><p><a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/dark-matter/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Dark Matter">Dark Matter</a> may appear to be simply another film about a mass shooting spree at an American campus, albeit one with a Chinese twist. When Liu Xing arrives at the University of Iowa from Beijing, he optimistically proclaims himself so lucky to come to America, Meiguo, the Beautiful Country. May we all find a dream here!&#8230; I&#8217;m going to solve the <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/dark-matter/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Dark Matter">Dark Matter</a> problem, win the <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/nobel-prize/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Nobel Prize">Nobel Prize</a>, and marry a blue-eyed American girl!</p><p>But he gradually becomes persuaded that his professors are conspiring to delay his degree and deny him his rightful recognition as a scholar. His growing paranoia is only heightened when his Ph.D. orals committee refuses to sign off on his thesis until he redoes some of his computations, making it impossible for him to win the top dissertation prize he feels he deserves. By the end of the film, his acute sense of humiliation has led to a psychotic state, and in a fit of murderous rage he kills the professors he once idealized.</p><p>But what gives Dark Matter wider significance is the filmmakers&#8217; use of the Iowa incident to explore—indirectly—some important psychological dynamics between China and the West: China&#8217;s deeply felt sense of historic injury by foreign nations, and the ways its often thwarted efforts to gain acceptance among leading world powers have exacerbated such sentiments. In the past, feelings of injury have arisen from such events as the Opium Wars and the Japanese occupation; and most recently after the Tibetan demonstrations this spring and during the run-up to this summer&#8217;s Beijing Olympic Games.</p><p>By retelling the tragic story of a Chinese graduate student attempting to complete a Ph.D. at a prestigious American university, the film suggests, obliquely, a larger parable about China&#8217;s ambivalence toward the developed world, especially the United States.</p></blockquote><hr /><p><small>© Xiao Qiang for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2008. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/&title=China: Humiliation &#038; the Olympics">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/dark-matter/" rel="tag">Dark Matter</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/07/china-humiliation-the-olympics/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> <georss:point>41.9382286 -93.3898849</georss:point> </item> <item><title>Charlie Rose Show on China</title><link>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/</link> <comments>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Sophie Beach</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[CDT Highlights]]></category> <category><![CDATA[China & the World]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[17th Party Congress]]></category> <category><![CDATA[kissinger]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Orville Schell]]></category> <category><![CDATA[perry link]]></category> <category><![CDATA[videos]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/19/charlie-rose-show-on-china/</guid> <description><![CDATA[ Charlie Rose hosted a discussion about China and the 17th Party Congress yesterday, first with an interview with Henry Kissinger:followed by a group discussion with Cheng Li, Orville Schell, and Perry Link:(...)Read the rest of Charlie Rose Show on China (0 words)<hr /> <small>© Sophie Beach for China Digital Times (CDT), 2007. &#124; Permalink &#124; No comment &#124; Add to del.icio.usPost tags: 17th Party Congress, kissinger, Orville Schell, perry link, videos Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall </small>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Charlie Rose hosted a discussion about China and the <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/17th-party-congress/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with 17th Party Congress">17th Party Congress</a> yesterday, first with an interview with Henry <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/kissinger/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with kissinger">Kissinger</a>:</p><p><embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=6894689849663803700:145000:1230000&#038;hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed></p><p> followed by a group discussion with Cheng Li, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with Orville Schell">Orville Schell</a>, and <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/perry-link/" class="st_tag internal_tag" rel="tag" title="Posts tagged with perry link">Perry Link</a>:</p><p>(...)<br/>Read the rest of <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/">Charlie Rose Show on China</a> (0 words)</p><hr /><p><small>© Sophie Beach for <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net">China Digital Times (CDT)</a>, 2007. | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/">Permalink</a> | <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/#comments">No comment</a> | Add to <a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/&title=Charlie Rose Show on China">del.icio.us</a> <br/> Post tags: <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/17th-party-congress/" rel="tag">17th Party Congress</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/kissinger/" rel="tag">kissinger</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/orville-schell/" rel="tag">Orville Schell</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/perry-link/" rel="tag">perry link</a>, <a href="http://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/videos/" rel="tag">videos</a><br/> <a href="https://sesawe.net/-Tools-zh-.html">Download Tools to Circumvent the Great Firewall</a><br/> </small></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2007/10/charlie-rose-show-on-china/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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