{"id":165540,"date":"2013-11-17T16:53:04","date_gmt":"2013-11-18T00:53:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/?p=165540"},"modified":"2014-04-21T12:37:04","modified_gmt":"2014-04-21T19:37:04","slug":"third-plenum-narrative-always-equal-reality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2013\/11\/third-plenum-narrative-always-equal-reality\/","title":{"rendered":"Third Plenum: &#8220;Narrative Does Not Always Equal Reality&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On Twitter, <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/\">former Mexican ambassador to China Jorge Guajardo<\/a> expresses skepticism about <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2013\/11\/one-child-policy-labor-camps-addressed-blueprint-reform\/\">recent analyses of Xi Jinping&#8217;s position after last weekend&#8217;s Third Plenum<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Is it just me or is anyone else getting the impression that China watchers are using the third plenum to pretend they understand China?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402136058324070400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I have said it many times, anyone who claims to understand what is happening in China is simply making it up.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402136223986491392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The new narrative for China watchers is that of Xi as the strongman.  The fact of the matter is none of us know if it&#39;s true or not.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402136461593812992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">How strong a leader can Xi Jinping be if he has to govern with two living former presidents (plus Zeng Qihong, Li Peng, et al)?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402147738827378688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">How strong a leader can Xi Jinping be if 5 of the 7 standing committee politburo members retire in 4 years and replacements are Hu allies?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402148203526905856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">How strong a leader can Xi Jinping be if he really targets corruption (livelihood) within the Communist Party?  Doesn&#39;t get him many allies.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402148439431340032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">How did the narrative change from Xi Jinping, &quot;disappearing&quot; Vice President, to the strongest leader in China since Mao or Deng&#39;s times?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402149440116785152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Xi Jinping&#39;s China, in foreign media eyes, is the only place where somebody is considered strong because he manages to form a committee.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402168482491793408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">So new committee is formed in China (we have no idea if it is for foreign or domestic affairs) hence Xi is strongest leader in modern times.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402169219120660480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I am not saying Xi is not strongest leader ever.  I am only saying we have no way of knowing.  Narrative does not always equal reality.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jorge_guajardo\/status\/402170017502216192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 17, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>See also <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2013\/08\/bo-xilai-trial-reactions\/#liveblog-entry-72469\">Guajardo&#8217;s tweeted reminiscences of his encounters with Bo Xilai<\/a> following Bo&#8217;s trial in August, via CDT.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Twitter, former Mexican ambassador to China Jorge Guajardo expresses skepticism about recent analyses of Xi Jinping&#8217;s position after last weekend&#8217;s Third Plenum: Is it just me or is anyone else getting the impression that China watchers are using the third plenum to pretend they understand China? &mdash; Jorge Guajardo (@jorge_guajardo) November 17, 2013 I 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