{"id":178429,"date":"2014-10-23T16:09:05","date_gmt":"2014-10-23T23:09:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/?p=178429"},"modified":"2015-01-08T14:17:44","modified_gmt":"2015-01-08T22:17:44","slug":"apple-facebook-chiefs-navigate-china-visits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/10\/apple-facebook-chiefs-navigate-china-visits\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple and Facebook Chiefs Navigate China Visits"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Following <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/technology\/2014\/jul\/14\/apple-denies-iphone-national-security-threat-location-tracking-china\">accusations that Apple threatens China\u2019s national security<\/a> while <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/10\/china-brushes-icloud-attack-accusations\/\">China tries to intercept Apple users\u2019 cloud data<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/articles\/apple-plans-more-stores-in-china-1414056873\"><strong>Apple CEO Tim Cook met with Vice Premier Ma Kai in Beijing to \u201cexchange views\u201d on digital security<\/strong><\/a> on Wednesday. From Gillian Wong at The Wall Street Journal:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In an interview with Chinese news portal Sina.com, Mr. Cook said the Cupertino, Calif., gadget maker will also increase investment in China by an unspecified amount. \u201cIn the future China will become Apple\u2019s biggest revenue contributor,\u201d he said, according to Sina.com. \u201cIt\u2019s just a matter of time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026] Mr. Cook\u2019s trip is being portrayed by some Chinese media outlets as part of the company\u2019s attempt to assuage concerns the Chinese government or public might have about the security of data stored on its phones. In July, state broadcaster China Central Television called a location-tracking function on the iPhone a \u201cnational security concern.\u201d Apple has said it doesn\u2019t keep user data.<\/p>\n<p>The official Xinhua News Agency said Mr. Cook and China\u2019s Vice Premier Ma Kai \u201cexchanged views on protection of users\u2019 information\u201d when they met on Wednesday. [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/articles\/apple-plans-more-stores-in-china-1414056873\">Source<\/a><\/strong>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Chinese Vice Premier Ma Kai and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Apple?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Apple<\/a> CEO <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tim_cook?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@tim_cook<\/a> Wed met in Beijing to discuss protection of users&#39; information <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/NZyTVx8ayk\">pic.twitter.com\/NZyTVx8ayk<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; People&#39;s Daily, China (@PDChina) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PDChina\/status\/524918636872761344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 22, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Despite <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/08\/microsoft-antitrust-probe-business-usual\/\">mutual suspicion<\/a>, Apple has developed what GreatFire.org\u2014which <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/10\/china-accused-infiltrating-apples-icloud\/\">first revealed the recent iCloud attack<\/a>\u2014has called \u201ca cozy and snuggly [\u2026] bromance\u201d with China. In January, <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/01\/apple-signals-plans-broaden-china-mobile-alliance\/\">it announced plans to deepen ties with the colossal China Mobile carrier<\/a>, while in August it <a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2014\/08\/apple-hosting-user-data-china-based-servers\/\">sought to dispel unease about its use of China-based servers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/chinadigitaltimes.net\/2013\/12\/worker-death-raises-questions-apple-contractor\/\">Concerns about factory conditions<\/a> have also been a longstanding problem for the company in China. Cook tried to sweeten the image of Apple\u2019s supply chain with a visit to a Foxconn production line for the new iPhone 6 in Zhengzhou:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Great to meet talented people like Zhang Fan, who helps make iPhone 6 in Zhengzhou. An early highlight of this trip. <a href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/ALo5d3SiSZ\">pic.twitter.com\/ALo5d3SiSZ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Tim Cook (@tim_cook) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tim_cook\/status\/525094685593722880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 23, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Also making an appearance in China was Facebook\u2019s Mark Zuckerberg, who held a half-hour Q&amp;A session at Beijing\u2019s Tsinghua University as he took up a place on the advisory council of its School of Economics and Management. Speaking in Mandarin, <a href=\"http:\/\/bits.blogs.nytimes.com\/2014\/10\/23\/zuckerberg-speaking-chinese-shows-up-at-beijing-forum\/\"><strong>Zuckerberg expressed hope that Facebook might one day win greater access to the country<\/strong><\/a>. From Austin Ramzy and Paul Mozur at The New York Times:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[\u2026] Mr. Zuckerberg\u2019s new association with Tsinghua University shows how Facebook is playing the long game in China. The hope appears to be that engagement with China, along with Facebook\u2019s current operations selling advertisements to Chinese companies, will help the company some day open a form of its website in China.<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026] When asked about Facebook\u2019s plans in China, Mr. Zuckerberg took two big gulps from his water bottle to laughter, and then said, \u201cWe\u2019re already in China,\u201d to more laughs.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe help Chinese companies increase foreign customers, they use Facebook ads to find more customers,\u201d he explained, citing how Lenovo uses Facebook to advertise in Indonesia. He added that Facebook had worked with Hangzhou and Qingdao to help those Chinese cities attract visitors via their Facebook pages.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want to help other places in the world connect to China,\u201d he said. [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/bits.blogs.nytimes.com\/2014\/10\/23\/zuckerberg-speaking-chinese-shows-up-at-beijing-forum\/\">Source<\/a><\/strong>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Zuckerberg\u2019s Chinese was greeted warmly by his audience, but met <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scmp.com\/news\/china\/article\/1622838\/us-media-wowed-after-mark-zuckerberg-conducts-tsinghua-university-qa\">mixed reactions elsewhere<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Loving all the Zuck hate from the Chinese-speaking white guy contingent. You guys realize you sounded just like that in college right?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Megha Rajagopalan (@meghara) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/meghara\/status\/525122265550446592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 23, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Mark Zuckerberg&#39;s Chinese is not bad at all. Bravo! Basically demonstrates the level anybody can achieve in 2-3 yrs. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/xogP6kn9ee\">https:\/\/t.co\/xogP6kn9ee<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; \u5927\u5c71 Dashan (@akaDashan) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/akaDashan\/status\/525218180663222274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 23, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">This is the vote that counts RT <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/akaDashan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@akaDashan<\/a>: Mark Zuckerberg&#39;s Chinese is not bad at all. Bravo!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Aaron Back (@AaronBack) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AaronBack\/status\/525222280859619328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 23, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Judge for yourself from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/video.php?v=10101708164336771&set=vb.4&type=2&theater\">video of the session on Facebook<\/a>, or <a href=\"http:\/\/qz.com\/285851\/the-most-important-things-mark-zuckerberg-just-said-in-broken-chinese\/\">read further highlights from Quartz<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/worldviews\/wp\/2014\/10\/23\/here-are-some-hot-takes-on-mark-zuckerbergs-mandarin-skills\/\">more on Zuckerberg\u2019s language skills at The Washington Post<\/a>. <a name=\"xiaomi\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While Facebook tries to break into China, the country\u2019s leading smartphone manufacturer <a href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2014\/10\/22\/xiaomi-is-moving-international-users-data-out-of-china\/\"><strong>Xiaomi has announced plans to break out, moving services for international users outside the Great Firewall<\/strong><\/a>. While citing performance as the main reason for the move, International VP Hugo Barra added that \u201cit also better equips us to maintain high privacy standards and comply with local data protection regulations.\u201d From Jon Russell at TechCrunch:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Xiaomi got itself into hot water this summer when it was found be sharing a range of user information with a server in China. A report from security company F-Secure found that the device\u2019s IMEI number, customer\u2019s phone number, phone contacts and text messages received were all shared but \u2014 importantly \u2014 there was no way for customers to opt out.<\/p>\n<p>As with all things China and privacy-related, the revelation raised concerns that the information could be accessible by the Chinese government.<\/p>\n<p>Xiaomi quickly offered an opt out for users, but moving their data overseas \u2014 MIUI services will be housed in Amazon AWS data centers in Oregon, USA, and Singapore \u2014 is the best response to any claims of nefarious intentions. [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2014\/10\/22\/xiaomi-is-moving-international-users-data-out-of-china\/\">Source<\/a><\/strong>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Economist looked this week at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.economist.com\/news\/business\/21627648-chinese-phonemakers-are-preparing-take-world-smartening-up-their-act\"><strong>the overseas expansion of Chinese smartphone brands<\/strong><\/a>, including Xiaomi. The obstacles ahead of them, from pronunciation to security fears and likely legal battles, appear steep but surmountable, it argues.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Another local firm on the move is OnePlus. Reviewers in developed markets have been raving about its clever handsets, which offer top-notch performance and features for around $300\u2014less than half the list price of the latest iPhone. Carl Pei of OnePlus argues that unlike its rivals, his firm was \u201cborn a global company\u201d. Since its founding late last year, it has targeted 16 countries\u2014including such challenging markets as America and Britain. \u201cIt helps that a lot of people don\u2019t know that we are a Chinese firm,\u201d he confides.<\/p>\n<p>[\u2026] A serious threat to Chinese firms as they head overseas is lawsuits from Apple and Samsung, who themselves have long been entangled in nasty battles over intellectual property (IP). Ben Qiu of Cooley, an American law firm, believes that \u201cXiaomi is in dangerous waters of potential patent-infringement claims on the international markets.\u201d But he argues that the firm\u2019s clever management team, which includes former Google executives, can navigate these perilous seas because it is well prepared for legal and regulatory battles. [<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.economist.com\/news\/business\/21627648-chinese-phonemakers-are-preparing-take-world-smartening-up-their-act\">Source<\/a><\/strong>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following accusations that Apple threatens China\u2019s national security while China tries to intercept Apple users\u2019 cloud data, Apple CEO Tim Cook met with Vice Premier Ma Kai in Beijing to \u201cexchange views\u201d on digital security on Wednesday. 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